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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    So this has always bugged me. People make the claim (a lot!) that it's easy to tell if someone's not pulling their weight. But I've never understood this. I know that when I'm playing, I'm not paying careful enough attention to what other people are doing to know if they're doing something fundamentally wrong or not. A healer not healing or a tank not tanking would be about the extent I'm able to monitor other people while still playing my own character. Certainly I could never watch, say, a SMN or something to have any idea if they're doing their rotation properly in savage, ultimate, or extreme trials. There's no possibility of that.
    It's not impossible, but I wouldn't call it 'easy' since having a firsthand experience on playing said classes may also play factor in judgment (aka knowing their kits). It's not something all players willing to do: play all/multiple classes.
    I.e. 120s is a common next raid burst window in most encounter after starting a fight. If said player have played multiple classes and have some knowledge of their kits, it's quite intuitive to expect seeing the 20s, 30s, 40s, 60s, and 120s big damage button/raid buff icon coming out at this very window because they all line up perfectly at 120s mark. Not seeing one or few of them could indicate some room for more improvement or a mistake made during the heat of encounter. This is just one of the examples of course.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 03-16-2021 at 04:19 PM. Reason: typo

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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    It's not impossible, but I wouldn't call it 'easy' since having a firsthand experience on playing said classes may also play factor in judgment (aka knowing their kits). It's not something all players willing to do: play all/multiple classes.
    I.e. 120s is a common next raid burst window in most encounter after starting a fight. If said player have played multiple classes and have some knowledge of their kits, it's quite intuitive to expect seeing the 20s, 30s, 40s, 60s, and 120s big damage button/raid buff icon coming out at this very window because they all line up perfectly at 120s mark. Not seeing one or few of them could indicate some room for more improvement or a mistake made during the heat of encounter. This is just one of the examples of course.
    In theory you're right, but the fact of the matter is that I'm also in this fight, I'm also at my 120s cd window, and I have my own shit to do. If I take my attention away from playing my job to watch and see if other people are playing their jobs, then I'm failing in my duty to my party.

    There's a very simple solution to this problem.. you have a tool that does it for you.. that you can analyze later in far greater detail than watching the icons blink in and out on your party frames.
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