Disallow Relocation, At Least Temporarily

[Venjamin]

Because that is how it works! Have you even played final fantasy? The 5-minute relocation cooldown is activated upon relocating, not on initial purchase. Changing it to 30 days doesn't change that.

Sure I have. I just haven't played with a house, because I have lost my rounds of placard roulette thusfar. Once more, you are WILDLY missing the point. Relocation should NOT be allowed to cut the timer. They should have to sit and camp with the rest of us schlubs.

[Catstab]

WILDLY missing the point.

This after you read "don't say this isn't how relocation works, because it is" and responded "but that's not how relocation works!"

Just re-read my post above if you want to know my point.

[Venjamin]

This after you read "don't say this isn't how relocation works, because it is" and responded "but that's not how relocation works!"

Just re-read my post above if you want to know my point.

Your point is that people without a house should be treated worse than people who already own a house, and is therefore not a good one.

[Catstab]

Your point is that people without a house should be treated worse than people who already own a house, and is therefore not a good one.

Your point is that you love placard clicking for hours so much, you want to do it every time you move, too. You want to waste hundreds of extra hours of people's time. It's also not a good one.

Improve things for campers, don't create issues for relocators. Relocation should go away. But only because the timer itself is gone. Lengthening the cooldown is only a change for the worse.

[LaylaTsarra]

Your point is that people without a house should be treated worse than people who already own a house, and is therefore not a good one.

There is nothing wrong with relocations. It does not take a house away from those available. The problem is the timer and that needs to be addressed. The long times associated with the cooldown before a house becomes available is ridiculously long. I sincerely doubt SE will remove relocations as an option but the request to include a longer cooldown before a house owner can transfer again is a good one. Multiple transfers in a small space of time needs to be discouraged.

[Venjamin]

There is nothing wrong with relocations. It does not take a house away from those available. The problem is the timer and that needs to be addressed. The long times associated with the cooldown before a house becomes available is ridiculously long. I sincerely doubt SE will remove relocations as an option but the request to include a longer cooldown before they can transfer again is a good one. Multiple transfers in a small space of time needs to be discouraged.

Yes, the timer is already bad - and while it does not "take a house away from those available" it still burns users. The players who just spent 12 hours there now need to go find whatever plot was just abandoned (depending on whether or not the other person knows / cares to say where it used to be) and get to doing the whole thing all over again, and HOPE that someone doesn't like this spot a little better than their current one. Relocation is bad for all the players who do not have a house yet.

Your point is that you love placard clicking for hours so much, you want to do it every time you move, too. You want to waste hundreds of extra hours of people's time. It's also not a good one.

Improve things for campers, don't create issues for relocators. Relocation should go away. But only because the timer itself is gone. Lengthening the cooldown is only a change for the worse.

Relocators and campers should be one in the same. Would it suck for people relocating? Yes. But they've already won once. At that point, relocation is literally win more. Oh, you didn't get your perfect plot? Well, sorry, the other seven people who spent a day here doing nothing but clicking this stupid board don't have a place at all, so you should not get to jump the line.



Does relocation adopt the timer from the plot that they've been sitting at, or does it start a whole new timer for the plot they abandoned?

[LaylaTsarra]

Yes, the timer is already bad - and while it does not "take a house away from those available" it still burns users. The players who just spent 12 hours there now need to go find whatever plot was just abandoned (depending on whether or not the other person knows / cares to say where it used to be) and get to doing the whole thing all over again, and HOPE that someone doesn't like this spot a little better than their current one. Relocation is bad for all the players who do not have a house yet. ?

I understand that but relocating isn't the issue it's the timer. I've camped houses and have had that happen. I'm also of the view that being able to upgrade my location or move from a small to a medium or a large is an excellent feature for housing in general. The issue isn't the relocation it's the time you have to spend at a placard trying to get that house.

I sincerely doubt SE will remove relocations as an option and personally I'm opposed to their doing so. I sincerely hope they address this unreasonably long time people have to wait before a house is available for sale however.

[Catstab]

Would it suck for people relocating? Yes

A change to make the game suck more for people? Pass. Think of something better.

Does relocation adopt the timer from the plot that they've been sitting at, or does it start a whole new timer for the plot they abandoned?

Any open plot is subject to a timer that is both hidden and randomized to the second. When you attempt to purchase a plot you will likely be given the message "This plot is not yet available for purchase." You must then re-attempt your purchase, at which point the message will present again, or be replaced by "You purchase the deed to plot ## ward ##.” The plot will allow itself to be purchased after 0-24 hours have passed. No indication that the plot can be purchased will be given, it will simply allow the next person who clicks it to buy. Relocators, whether players or FCs, are not subject to this timer.

[Venjamin]

A change to make the game suck more for people? Pass. Think of something better.



Any open plot is subject to a timer that is both hidden and randomized to the second. When you attempt to purchase a plot you will likely be given the message "This plot is not yet available for purchase." You must then re-attempt your purchase, at which point the message will present again, or be replaced by "You purchase the deed to plot ## ward ##.” The plot will allow itself to be purchased after 0-24 hours have passed. No indication that the plot can be purchased will be given, it will simply allow the next person who clicks it to buy. Relocators, whether players or FCs, are not subject to this timer.

A change to make the game suck equally for everyone? Better than treating a large majority of the players as second class citizens.

My question was specific to relocation. If someone relocates, does it restart the 24 hour random timer? Or is their old plot now a 1 hour timer because the one they relocated to took 23 hours before they relocated?

I understand that but relocating isn't the issue it's the timer. I've camped houses and have had that happen. I'm also of the view that being able to upgrade my location or move from a small to a medium or a large is an excellent feature for housing in general. The issue isn't the relocation it's the time you have to spend at a placard trying to get that house.

I sincerely doubt SE will remove relocations as an option and personally I'm opposed to their doing so.

It's BOTH. Relocation is a great feature! I'm all for relocation. I'm not for relocation spitting in the faces of everyone who doesn't have a house.