Why is the Maturity Lvl of People Playing this game so much higher than that of WoW?

[SilverObi]

This feels like a bait thread but oh well.

This game's community is just as good/bad as most others, it just depends on who you happen to interact with on any given day and verbiage in certain ToS basically makes any interactions outside of your personal friend group a potential risk if you say something that someone just so happens to take offense with and then you have to hope a GM has a level head.

[gumas]

I think overall this community is more friendly, but I would never put it up on a pedestal.

indeed i think the community in this game is much more friendly than wow, but wow itself seems improving a little bit i guess? at least from my view, back in cata days the toxicity even showing in casual dungeon run, now in shadowlands everyone is surprisingly decent in casual dungeon run now, some people still quit the moment we got wiped but at least now they didnt say anything, i even see someone saying stuff like "hello/hi" at the start of dungeon now which for me is a massive improvement lol

i think the influx of new players in both wow and ff14 does shift the community a bit, and thankfully toward positive side, mmorpg back in vanilla days or everquest days is so hard, now? everything is so easy, in wow enemy level is now sync to your level so you can go anywhere and still feel powerful, FF14 give you so many option to get exp from quest, levequest, fate, duty, etc.

now the "hardcore" is much more tolerant at least on casual side

[Raltar]

I've been playing MMOs for over 20 years(started back in Everquest before they had their first expansion and really, we can go back even further when I played text based MUDs) and I can honestly say that this community is no different than any other MMO community or any gaming community, for that matter.

[Wolven_Essence]

While I am sure there are plenty of jerks running around I this game, there is that thread about DF horror stories that is really long, but the ratio does seem to be significantly lower here on FF 14. Now, I have not done content high enough to see the really bad ones yet, but I base my belief that the maturity level is a little higher here on the fact that here in the forums there is just so much less toxicity than there is on the WoW forums. I mean over there someone asks a simple question and they are immediately being insulted within the first five responses. Only thing I can figure is that WoW caters to the hardcore players more than the casuals and it is those higher end players that have those attitudes the most.

[Nethereal]

It's not. We live in a world ruled by fear of cancellation and alienation for wrong think and this directly correlates with the way the ToS for ffxiv is handled.

Chances are if people are silent it does not mean they don't mind you dying it just means them saying anything is not worth a possible permanent strike against their account.
If you ever get kicked from content in the future with no warning you'll know why now.

[gumas]

also lets not forget each of us here might playing on different time and different server and region, so experience definitely different for each person

in my case i play on jp server and my active time is usually when the general english speaking player (on my jp server) are sleeping so the one who active is usually the "adult" and "family" side, as for the jp people they tend not to say much toward us english speaker aside from simple greeting and auto text, and its not like we understand jp words anyway so most of the time my deal with jp is decent most of the time

[Floortank]

WOW has aggressively catered to the worst people in society for years, and FFXIV doesn't. Just scroll through reading the posts about people who don't like getting account strikes for saying things they'd get slapped IRL for saying. That never happens in WOW, it happens in this game. Probably also a large overlap between the people complaining and the people who grew up playing WOW.

[Raltar]

It's not. We live in a world ruled by fear of cancellation and alienation for wrong think and this directly correlates with the way the ToS for ffxiv is handled.

Chances are if people are silent it does not mean they don't mind you dying it just means them saying anything is not worth a possible permanent strike against their account.
If you ever get kicked from content in the future with no warning you'll know why now.

This is a very real thing right here. You can't even offer people friendly advice on how to improve without "YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB" in this game. So, it will always be a silent kick instead.

[gumas]

^this really take me back when wow is still at the peak of toxicity and the hardcore players "trend"

i got kicked out of party.... many times.... just because i said "hi/hello this is my first time" or "i'll try my best" at the start of the run

i swear sometimes you cant even be nice to others, even in virtual world lol

[Vahlnir]

This is a very real thing right here. You can't even offer people friendly advice on how to improve without "YOU DON'T PAY MY SUB" in this game. So, it will always be a silent kick instead.

Pretty much this. And even on the rare occasion that something is said, it is usually short and sweet. "Please heal", said my tank earlier in a Dun Scaith run when one healer was dead 90% of the run and the other just stood there 98% of it. Normally I say nothing (in game...) when something goes horribly wrong, but I couldn't help but type a quick "^" to show I agreed with the tank.