Why is the Maturity Lvl of People Playing this game so much higher than that of WoW?

[MoofiaBossVal]

As a former WoW player, I don't think FFXIV's community is better than WoW's.

In WoW, you learn to develop a thick skin pretty quickly. People throw words at each other all the time in chat, but all the fragile people were filtered out long ago, or they quickly acclimated to it. Seeing a screenshot of a WoW chat seems shocking to non-WoW players, but once you've acclimated to the environment you don't think too much about it.

The real nice thing about WoW is that people have no tolerance for crap. If someone is under performing, people aren't afraid to call it out and offer advice. If you don't get with the program and take that advice and change what you're doing, you're going to get kicked real fast. People's time is precious and they're not going to waste the few hours they have after work to raid on people messing around.

Contrast that with FFXIV, which has a more fragile demeanor in my experience. People like to act nice... if only because if they say anything remotely negative, they're going to be dogpiled. FFXIV's english fandom seems to have a lot of overlap with the r/Anime fandom, which is a niceness echochamber and creates fragility. People are content to spend hours in party finder carrying people who clearly aren't capable of performing basic mechanical checks, and god forbid kicking them. No one calls out anyone on anything and problems are never addressed.

As a person on another forum said: WoW demands basic player competence. FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it.

I don't think faction wars have anything to do with why players are so hostile in WoW when it comes to player interactions. The design of the game at its core, however, is...as well as the general disdain between players and the dev team, which is the result of the core game design. lol Even so, this game's player base isn't any better depending on where you look, if not arguably worse in certain areas. Just in different ways. I think overall this community is more friendly, but I would never put it up on a pedestal.

I think that the faction tribalism that Blizzard has encouraged has actually had some effect on some part of the WoW fandom, but not the entire fandom.

Blizzard's bad attitude towards their own customers, however, has really soured the WoW fandom over the past 6 years. I don't think it has made people more assholish towards each other, but definitely made the playerbase more irreverent towards the devs. If the devs won't take their own fans seriously, why should the fans take the devs seriously? There is reason why a lot of the WoW fandom's jokes are at Blizzard's expense, laughing at the devs, not with them.

Whereas the FFXIV fandom seems to have an unhealthy cult revolving around Yoshida and Ishikawa. Feels like a positive feel-good echochamber TBH.