Mentor Requirements

[Krotoan]

You can't hold Mentors to higher standards than everyone else, because they're just players like everyone else.
You don't sign a contract to become a Mentor, it's just part of the game, that they're playing the same as you.
And if you did, then you're just policing personality at that point. "It's not technically against the rules so doesn't warrant a suspension, but you did seem a bit of a dick to me so no more Mentor for you." Yeah I don't think so.

Mentoring should have a higher standard because people volunteer for it, you don't "earn" it. You are agreeing to being a guide and coach and a teaching position requires patience and understanding most gamers don't have. If you are proven not to have it, you don't need to be a mentor.

What does this mean?


This seems like it would be wide open to abuse.
Don't like someone who is a mentor? Report them for 'being a bit of a dick' to remove their Mentor crown.

This is why I also said it should be reviewed just like a normal report. It shouldn't just be "tick tick tick too many reports you lose mentor". Enough people report you for bad mentoring someone takes a look at the logs and makes a call.

How do you prove that exactly?

This is a game. Mentors are players, they are not SE staff.

As mentioned in my post , hence the edit, by review. GMs will have standards to follow.

[Seraphor]

Mentoring should have a higher standard because people volunteer for it, you don't "earn" it. You are agreeing to being a guide and coach and a teaching position requires patience and understanding most gamers don't have. If you are proven not to have it, you don't need to be a mentor.

How do you prove that exactly?

This is a game. Mentors are players, they are not SE staff.

[Seraphor]

This is why I also said it should be reviewed just like a normal report. It shouldn't just be "tick tick tick too many reports you lose mentor". Enough people report you for bad mentoring someone takes a look at the logs and makes a call.

As mentioned in my post , hence the edit, by review. GMs will have standards to follow.

GM's barely have time to go through all the real reports.
Let alone all the Karen's complaining that their Mentor wasn't helpful enough.

[Krotoan]

GM's barely have time to go through all the real reports.
Let alone all the Karen's complaining that their Mentor wasn't helpful enough.

Then more GM's are needed or a separate team needs to be made. Cruddy Mentors is a problem. I wear the crown to help but I've had a lot of people react badly to it without me saying or doing anything just because of the stigma around it.

Personally I feel the program needs to be scrapped and rebuilt.

This is a game.
You are not on the SE payroll.
The Crown is literally a piece of glamour and that's never going to change. You're better off getting over it.

The fact you feel so shows how badly the implementation went and shows how much we need to add some accountability and checks to it or to just get rid of it.

People react badly to advice anyway, whether you wear the crown or not.
People will find any reason to reject advice, or help, if they don't want it.
Being able to 'report' Mentors for 'not being helpful enough' is a disaster begging to happen and will only cause more work for the already thinly stretched GMs.

Did you catch the part where they instantly reacted badly to it even though I hadn't said anything? It's not the advice.

[Seraphor]

Then more GM's are needed or a separate team needs to be made. Cruddy Mentors is a problem. I wear the crown to help but I've had a lot of people react badly to it without me saying or doing anything just because of the stigma around it.

Personally I feel the program needs to be scrapped and rebuilt.

People react badly to advice anyway, whether you wear the crown or not.
People will find any reason to reject advice, or help, if they don't want it.
Being able to 'report' Mentors for 'not being helpful enough' is a disaster begging to happen and will only cause more work for the already thinly stretched GMs.

Did you catch the part where they instantly reacted badly to it even though I hadn't said anything? It's not the advice.

It doesn't 'badly need' any of that. You simply want it to be more than what it is, you want it to be something its not.
It's noble in principle, but you're being an idealist, it's not practical.

[Krotoan]

It doesn't 'badly need' any of that. You simply want it to be more than what it is, you want it to be something its not.
It's noble in principle, but you're being an idealist, it's not practical.

It literally was a program meant to help unite people who were willing to give advice and guidance and those who were looking for it. Not a cosmetic. Not a badge you wear for status. Your insistence that it is so shows that failed. It needs either work, or to be removed.