Mordion Gaol is a bad system

[RobinMalvin]

y'all ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty"?

Except the OP had been reported and GM i.e the authority had reviewed and deemed the case legit and that the OP is guilty. At this point "innocent until proven guilty" no longer applies since the authority has investigated and found proves that make him guilty, regardless of what OP says.

[Fourbestintoner]

the profanity filter is not free reign to swear like a sailor. if the rule is "no swearing" and you get reported for swearing, whether you're cussing someone out or just talking about something else, "there's a profanity filter" is not a valid defense.

There is no "no swearing" rule, only rules about being offensive, randoms "oh shit, oh fuck" for dying isn't being offensive, unless you're some kind of christian from the 50s I guess.

[Mavrias]

I need to ask all of you a question then. What defines offensive language? You all act like you know, and that I should have been punished, and just know what shouldn't be said..

So tell me? What defines offensive language. Be specific.

I don't really care whether you get punished or not, I don't know you and I dont have any chat logs. the person who's opinion matters is the GM who reviewed your incident. I can only tell you what I would do were I in your shoes.

I would stop swearing in the company of those who aren't my friends, refrain from using slurs in mixed company, reclaimed or not, (example: I'm black and several of my friends who play this game are black, so you can imagine which "slur" we toss around casually to each other) a GM will not care, and refrain from making sexually explicit comments in mixed company. effectively, don't make comments you wouldn't make around a bunch of grade schoolers in public channels.

[Mavrias]

There is no "no swearing" rule, only rules about being offensive, randoms "oh shit, oh fuck" for dying isn't being offensive, unless you're some kind of christian from the 50s I guess.

thats between the person who reported and the GM to decide. if thats the risk you wanna take with pugs you don't know, be my guest. but "no profanity" tends to include general swearing.

[Nothv13]

Except the OP had been reported and GM i.e the authority had reviewed and deemed the case legit and that the OP is guilty. At this point "innocent until proven guilty" no longer applies since the authority has investigated and found proves that make him guilty, regardless of what OP says.

And he still doesn't know what he did to violate the rule, only what rule was violated, the corective measure that is this system fails to help correct the issue.

[Ammokkx]

Except the OP had been reported and GM i.e the authority had reviewed and deemed the case legit and that the OP is guilty. At this point "innocent until proven guilty" no longer applies since the authority has investigated and found proves that make him guilty, regardless of what OP says.

alright how many of you are going to quote the thing and proceed to completely miss the point of the post?

I was, have been, and continue to refer specifically to the attitude people in this thread have towards the OP without making any statements on the legitimacy of his ban. I have even said "He probably did deserve it, even if I can't check the context of his ban" in not that many words.

Stop misrepresenting my posts please and thank you.

EDIT: And just to make it absolutely clear, I also used the proverb to reinforce the point that without being shown the proof, even when it is there and it's just being withheld from you, to the individual in question, this doesn't actually prove anything to them. If you have evidence, then show it. Yes, this does not apply to an online company's TOS in the current state of affairs.

That doesn't mean it shouldn't apply, ever. There are a lot of things that are prohibited which are questionable. Gay marriage is still a hot button topic, even after it was allowed, and even when it really shouldn't have been outlawed to begin with. People tend to fight for what they stand for, and while forum debates are, let's be real, not quite as important as some of our current social issues, handwaving this behaviour away out of hand because "that's the way things are" is not a very enlightened point of view from where I'm standing.

[Fourbestintoner]

thats between the person who reported and the GM to decide. if thats the risk you wanna take with pugs you don't know, be my guest. but "no profanity" tends to include general swearing.

Profanity isn't even in the TOS, only harassment, nuisance behaviour, offensive expressions(to another person) and obstruction of play.
Profanity bans are all *bullshit* and should be cancelled.

[Doozer]

Profanity isn't even in the TOS, only harassment, nuisance behaviour, offensive expressions(to another person) and obstruction of play.
Profanity bans are all *bullshit* and should be cancelled.

Actually, "Other expressions that are offensive to another person" could apply to profanity. Certain parts of the list are non-specific to allow flexibility when dealing with reports. As well, some profanity can qualify as "Aggressive expressions such as violent language/slander/insult/threat" depending on the usage. There's plenty of additional details listed in the article about prohibited behaviour. Make sure to read it all if you're unsure.

[Nothv13]

Actually, "Other expressions that are offensive to another person" could apply to profanity. Certain parts of the list are non-specific to allow flexibility when dealing with reports. As well, some profanity can qualify as "Aggressive expressions such as violent language/slander/insult/threat" depending on the usage. There's plenty of additional details listed in the article about prohibited behaviour. Make sure to read it all if you're unsure.

It is so broad there is actually no way to actually not violate it. If someone finds it offensive, its offensive. Rules should never be made on such subjective things

[Doozer]

It is so broad there is actually no way to actually not violate it. If someone finds it offensive, its offensive. Rules should never be made on such subjective things

Except the GM must also find it offensive. So if they do, you're busted. Thems the rules. It's not law, it's what you agree to when you sign up for the game. It doesn't even have to be fair. It's their rules. If you don't like it, go play something else. That's all you can do.