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  1. #41
    Player Wrestlefire769's Avatar
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    Hel Sonofraiser
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It probably is for the better to just not say anything
    Fixed it for you, and about the only reason I'm able to keep this character, for now.
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  2. #42
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    Vickii's Avatar
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    Elise Marie
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespar View Post
    While we're on the subject. I'd rather not harp on anyone who may or may not have done something, I would bring up the alternative of not having such a system.
    I feel like the game would be far far more toxic if SE didnt have some kind of GM task force to ensure things mostly pan out smoothly.

    It's never going to be perfect, and sometimes the innocent ones will inevitably fall thru the cracks. Just like any real life justice system. But without it, I'd wager things would be far worse.
    Well they need a system otherwise it becomes a horrid cesspit like world of warcraft where all the guys are sexist and make jokes about dead babies and things.

    A straight out ban/suspension of account without any in game ‘jail’ would seemingly be a more western thing to do. Perhaps this is how it’s done in Japan, but quite a few US/EU people seem to react with either anxiety or some sense of hard done by.

    An email stating what you specifically said, giving a warning/ban is more common in this market than what sounds like an interview with the principal.
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  3. #43
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    I mean... Even GTA V, which is centered around violence, and other stuff has a bad sports lobby. (Cousin's husband got put in it LOL. It's timed and apparently you get stuck in there longer every time you get put in there.)

    So, having a time out system seems somewhat normal in some games. Which is better than out right receiving the ban hammer. Just... Be mindful of others and what you say/do ?
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  4. #44
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    Realism_Snide's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    A good example is a twitter user who said she didn't want to work with bi people in her "industry". I'm not going to say what it is, because that wouldn't be appropriate here, but let's just say she felt that the LGBT side of the "industry" wasn't clean. She never said that she hated gays, but worded it incorrectly. By the next night the news came that she ended her life, because everyone misunderstood her, and she thought her career was over. There was no attempt by most to understand her when she apologized, and tried to correct what she said. People already had the homophobic angle stuck in their minds.

    I'm trying to say this as safe for work as possible, because despite the vulgarity of her profession, it is actually one of the best examples of toxicity in cancel culture. Cancel culture complaints are absolutely not just a disregard for consequences. This woman was genuinely sorry like I am, and wanted to correct what she said. She had perfectly just concerns, and wonderful intentions. Most people do not deserve to be put through the wringer like this.
    Excuse me, but for your example, did you just explain her tweet like "she felt like the LGBT side of her industry wasn't clean" as if it was something better than "I don't want to work with bi's"?
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  5. #45
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    Arctura Fengari
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    Quote Originally Posted by RexVex View Post
    I mean... Even GTA V, which is centered around violence, and other stuff has a bad sports lobby. (Cousin's husband got put in it LOL. It's timed and apparently you get stuck in there longer every time you get put in there.)

    So, having a time out system seems somewhat normal in some games. Which is better than out right receiving the ban hammer. Just... Be mindful of others and what you say/do ?
    I agree that the game needs a time out system. I just think it should be implemented better.

    If I could change it, I would make it so that when you enter you're greeted with a notice explaining what place you're in. You have the option to file your appeal like usual, but it would be a lot more clear on what is going on. After you apply, you'd be put in a line behind other players to see a GM, and it would update how far along you are in the queue. That way you don't have to wonder aimlessly about what is going on in perpetual anxiety. You could carry along with your regular life in the background while you're waiting, and have a smoother process.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realism_Snide View Post
    Excuse me, but for your example, did you just explain her tweet like "she felt like the LGBT side of her industry wasn't clean" as if it was something better than "I don't want to work with bi's"?
    I'm eyeballing "she had wonderful intentions" myself.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    My mother for instance constantly insists that "hell" is a swear word, even though it's mild.
    Just talk as you would to your grandmother... with your mother standing by ready to clip your ears if you use anything stronger than "heck".

    And never disparage another group of people.

    Do those, and you won't go wrong.
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Just talk as you would to your grandmother... with your mother standing by ready to clip your ears if you use anything stronger than "heck".

    And never disparage another group of people.

    Do those, and you won't go wrong.
    I actually got conditioned to never curse around my mom or grandparents lol. To this day, if I am about to say one I'll catch myself.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 02-21-2021 at 05:18 PM. Reason: :p
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I actually got conditioned to never curse around my mom or grandparents lol. To this day, if I am about to say one I'll catch myself.
    Hehe the same!
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    やはり、お前は……笑顔が……イイ

  10. #50
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    wow, I wasn't aware the game had a system like this. Well sometimes players need to be punished for bad behaviour I do think a GM should have contacted you telling you what you did and how long you'll be there.
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