FF14 devs just keep doing your thing because my god

[Garet]

I think for me as I did watch Blizzcon and the WoW Q&A with a friend, we both were rather unimpressed all around about anything related to WoW. Their big announcements had been the first major patch of Shadowlands with an in game cinematic for 9.1 and the most predictable Burning Crusade Classic.

Moving onto their Q&A they really needed to figure out what the heck a push to talk button was because man without it would could just see how...unhappy the Shadowlands team seemed to be and how nonsensical their answers to easy questions were when you hear the BC team laugh a ton at failed answers. After that Q&A I don't think anyone working on Shadowlands is excited about it and that really hurts the product when the people representing it aren't excited. Say what you will about Yoshi P. but the man clearly loves 14 and is almost always happy to share information about it, I do not get the same feeling form Ion Hazzikostas who always seems exhausted talking about the game.

You speak the truth. I think Ion likes World of Warcraft just as Yoshi P does FFXIV but is under immense pressure.

Yoshi P is probably surrounded more by fellow passionate gamers than Ion probably is, and I believe Yoshi P has a more "free-hand" on the direction of FFXIV than Ion does on WoW.

[Garet]

Blizzard's authenticator is crazy easy to use.... Please look into it SE lol.


On the whole FFXIV vs WoW thing of course I like FFXIV more, that's why I'm here- but I've no desire to make huge sweeping statements on WoW either to prove my enjoyment of FFXIV (some are more specific on what issues or reasons and that's fair and useful, but I feel it's popular here to make a show out of your dislike of wow to look like a better fan, well it's popular to do in general for all hobbies but I don't think it makes for the best feedback). The games often have similarities and could learn from each other (I encourage SE to look not just at WoW but it's a great way to see ideas in action and have others do your research for you- of course do your own too but you can take advantage of others homework lol, learn from history).

Yes SE should learn from Blizzard website, accounts management UIs etc. It is vastly superior in its ease of use and navigating.

[Garet]

Fixing a community problem like this is extremely difficult in a game as old as WoW. It would require a very definitive shift in design choices and players who have been playing the same game for over a decade often don't like being taken out of their comfort zone, even when they're not happy where they are now. Many would be very concerned that the little they like of the game would disappear if too much change happened.

I think WoW is long passed the point of being able to do anything about the community without risking enormous backlash. It's been like this for so long that the state of the community is almost a type of content in itself. It's completely interwoven with the experience of playing the game. It's not impossible to unravel it but doing it correctly would mean playing the long game of gradually introducing content that encourages change over the course of several years. And honestly, I don't think Blizzard can be bothered to do that because WoW already makes millions as it is. It won't be seen as a worthy investment.

Ion admitted as much when asked about how they plan to address the faction imbalance regarding hardcore mythic players and raider in horde and alliance. He said that although they do think about it and are trying to find way to encourage more hardcore players to move back to alliance, that it will take a long time unless they do something excessive in buffing alliance traits etc which is something they obviously do not want to do.

[Rae88]

Ion admitted as much when asked about how they plan to address the faction imbalance regarding hardcore mythic players and raider in horde and alliance. He said that although they do think about it and are trying to find way to encourage more hardcore players to move back to alliance, that it will take a long time unless they do something excessive in buffing alliance traits etc which is something they obviously do not want to do.

They gave Horde ridiculously overpowered racials, allowed the lead singer of a band at Blizzcon to slander Alliance players using anti-LGBT insults, and wonder why the alliance raiding scene is ... non-existent.

"We are trying to address the inbalance, and have been trying for the past 3 years, but it's a social thing, it's all on you". Not interested in your bullshit Ion

[Penthea]

They gave Horde ridiculously overpowered racials

"We are trying to address the inbalance, and have been trying for the past 3 years, but it's a social thing, it's all on you". Not interested in your bullshit Ion

I can't comment on now, even though I played again recently I paid little attention to the racials as I had no intention of raiding. However years ago when I did raid horde was most times seen as the stronger choice for racials. Some very hardcore raiding guilds would even make it mandatory that you played the best race for your class even if the difference was minimal.

I do think though that even if they abolished racials tomorrow it wouldn't fix much because the raiding communities have been established where they are for too long to change faction. There's also this silly idea that some have that the alliance is the pansy faction because the races there are more often conventionally good looking.

It is in part a social issue that there is faction imbalance, but that issue started because of development decisions by Blizzard making one faction a clear choice above the other in the cases of many classes. And don't even get me started on racials in pvp...god some were so stupidly good in that content.

allowed the lead singer of a band at Blizzcon to slander Alliance players using anti-LGBT insult

Oh wow, what is this? Can you please elaborate on what happened?

[Reap00]

Yes SE should learn from Blizzard website, accounts management UIs etc. It is vastly superior in its ease of use and navigating.

Who cares?

[Garet]

Who cares?

New players care. A lot gets frustrated just setting up account and gives up? And old players would not mind a more efficient and more friendly UI as well lolz

[MilkieTea]

Who cares?

just recently i had a friend nearly give up on figuring out how to download ffxiv, just because it's SO HARD to navigate downloading it for the first time. he also had to use a new email as the site wouldn't give him an activation page for his old email, like it just... wouldn't load it.

[Ralph2449]

Oh wow, what is this? Can you please elaborate on what happened?

Yeah that one was crazy, imagine you are in charge of Blizzcon, you see a video where a horde edgelord starts throwing out insults and use derogatory terms for half your playerbase and think "yeah we should totes upload that to blizzcon for everyone to see". It goes to show what kind of people work and influence things in blizzard.

Starts at 5 seconds, they had to non top spam the censoring beep with all the things he said, uncertain if it was censored in the actual blizzcon 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2yvZM1wn04
Uncensored version: his rant starts at 1 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_Lv0r-l4c

Who cares?

They definitely to to improve things in that area, getting my registration mail took so long I ended up closing the "insert registration code here" window assuming there would be a way to get back to that window from the email.

Ended up needing to wait 24 hours to create my account, they def could update the registration process.

[Penthea]

Yeah that one was crazy, imagine you are in charge of Blizzcon, you see a video where a horde edgelord starts throwing out insults and use derogatory terms for half your playerbase and think "yeah we should totes upload that to blizzcon for everyone to see". It goes to show what kind of people work and influence things in blizzard.

Starts at 5 seconds, they had to non top spam the censoring beep with all the things he said, uncertain if it was censored in the actual blizzcon 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2yvZM1wn04
Uncensored version: his rant starts at 1 min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW_Lv0r-l4c

Oh my god. I'm actually shocked. He was very explicit in his language. No subtlety at all. Full blown highly offensive insults, and he said them with so much arrogant pride. And Blizzard thought this was fine to promote...what?????? Even with the censorship it comes across as cringey at best.

I wonder how this passed me by, I was still playing WoW back then and had already been for many years. Maybe Blizzard somehow managed to insulate the EU playerbase from the controversy? Good god. I'm actually feeling really uncomfortable now. This is all so nasty.