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    I just returned to FFXIV since I really love the FF world here. I still love shadowlands though. Both game have pros and cons

    For me the biggest cons of FFXIV is its website, forums and account management service UI. It is so archaic that it can turn new players off by being frustrated in navigating it just to create an account etc. Overall though FFXIV in the game is awesome, except for pvp and again certain UI, it has awesome characters visuals stories and animations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garet View Post
    I just returned to FFXIV since I really love the FF world here. I still love shadowlands though. Both game have pros and cons

    For me the biggest cons of FFXIV is its website, forums and account management service UI. It is so archaic that it can turn new players off by being frustrated in navigating it just to create an account etc. Overall though FFXIV in the game is awesome, except for pvp and again certain UI, it has awesome characters visuals stories and animations.

    Blizzard's authenticator is crazy easy to use.... Please look into it SE lol.


    On the whole FFXIV vs WoW thing of course I like FFXIV more, that's why I'm here- but I've no desire to make huge sweeping statements on WoW either to prove my enjoyment of FFXIV (some are more specific on what issues or reasons and that's fair and useful, but I feel it's popular here to make a show out of your dislike of wow to look like a better fan, well it's popular to do in general for all hobbies but I don't think it makes for the best feedback). The games often have similarities and could learn from each other (I encourage SE to look not just at WoW but it's a great way to see ideas in action and have others do your research for you- of course do your own too but you can take advantage of others homework lol, learn from history).



    An example of something I wish FFXIV tried a bit more of is the roleplay and whimsy items. Like engineer in wow can do so many absolutely awesome things that are not strictly related to battle content. The race and 'jobs' of wow getting loads of flavor skills and passives, not just that but to critters, fires that burn, camps, and more (although for FFXIV I'm not suggesting we get racials, it would be super messy this late in the game). I feel FFXIV doesn't do the flavor / roleplay as well. That stuff is 'fluff' so if someone was like "you can have fluff or good story" you'd of course pick the later, but to me it's really fun fluff that adds to the immersive experience (and with the job system I think is pretty friendly fluff too).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Blizzard's authenticator is crazy easy to use.... Please look into it SE lol.


    On the whole FFXIV vs WoW thing of course I like FFXIV more, that's why I'm here- but I've no desire to make huge sweeping statements on WoW either to prove my enjoyment of FFXIV (some are more specific on what issues or reasons and that's fair and useful, but I feel it's popular here to make a show out of your dislike of wow to look like a better fan, well it's popular to do in general for all hobbies but I don't think it makes for the best feedback). The games often have similarities and could learn from each other (I encourage SE to look not just at WoW but it's a great way to see ideas in action and have others do your research for you- of course do your own too but you can take advantage of others homework lol, learn from history).
    Yes SE should learn from Blizzard website, accounts management UIs etc. It is vastly superior in its ease of use and navigating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garet View Post
    Yes SE should learn from Blizzard website, accounts management UIs etc. It is vastly superior in its ease of use and navigating.
    Who cares?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Who cares?
    New players care. A lot gets frustrated just setting up account and gives up? And old players would not mind a more efficient and more friendly UI as well lolz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    Who cares?
    just recently i had a friend nearly give up on figuring out how to download ffxiv, just because it's SO HARD to navigate downloading it for the first time. he also had to use a new email as the site wouldn't give him an activation page for his old email, like it just... wouldn't load it.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garet View Post
    For me the biggest cons of FFXIV is its website, forums and account management service UI. It is so archaic that it can turn new players off by being frustrated in navigating it just to create an account etc.
    While I agree, the truly terrifying thing is that this account management system is a vast improvement on what there used to be with FFXI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Blizzard's authenticator is crazy easy to use.... Please look into it SE lol.
    I just want them to use standard RFC 4226 (HOTP) or RFC 6238 (TOTP) authentication keys. If they are already (I don't think they are, since the timeout on the OTP seems much longer than the standard), I want them to expose the key generation process so you can use normal HOTP/TOTP auth software. If they don't... I realize it's hard to retrofit given that there are hardware tokens out there they don't want to make obsolete, yes. But it would be so much nicer if people could keep their OTP in Google Authenticator or Authy or 1Password or wherever else they keep all their software authentication keys.
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    Last edited by Packetdancer; 02-22-2021 at 10:58 AM.
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