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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post

    Also, I'm not sure how it's "humbling" to get rescued. Dying is WAY more humbling and embarrassing, but I'm fine with it. If I screw up I die, I can 100% live with that. Healers forcibly taking control of my character and sabotaging me, whether intentional or not, will always bother me, though.
    When you die, you sabotage the entire group. You're fine with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    When you die, you sabotage the entire group. You're fine with that?
    Like I said earlier, screwing up with your own character is far more forgivable than forcibly kicking someone else out of the driver seat for their character, taking the controls yourself, then screwing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Like I said earlier, screwing up with your own character is far more forgivable than forcibly kicking someone else out of the driver seat for their character, taking the controls yourself, then screwing up.
    But you could've been saved by rescue there. Too bad you had it on toggle. Your group wiped because they didn't have enough damage since you died.
    Sad that you think it is fine when YOU screw up but not others. Rescue doesn't take control of your character by the way. It just pulls you in the direction of your healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    But you could've been saved by rescue there. Too bad you had it on toggle. Your group wiped because they didn't have enough damage since you died.
    Sad that you think it is fine when YOU screw up but not others. Rescue doesn't take control of your character by the way. It just pulls you in the direction of your healer.
    Well, I've never once been saved from death by Rescue, so there's that. It's only really been used on me a handful of times, and it's only ever hurt my DPS. Honestly, I don't recall if it's ever gone off in time to stop the damage even. One time the Healer was standing in the exact same AoE he was pulling me out of, and we both got hit anyways. That one I couldn't even be mad, at LEAST it was funny.

    That's the point of a toggle. It'll save people like me some grief while allowing the people who still need the help to leave it on.

    Rescue does take control of my character, by the way. I'm not the one moving him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Well, I've never once been saved from death by Rescue, so there's that. It's only really been used on me a handful of times, and it's only ever hurt my DPS. Honestly, I don't recall if it's ever gone off in time to stop the damage even. One time the Healer was standing in the exact same AoE he was pulling me out of, and we both got hit anyways. That one I couldn't even be mad, at LEAST it was funny.

    That's the point of a toggle. It'll save people like me some grief while allowing the people who still need the help to leave it on.

    Rescue does take control of my character, by the way. I'm not the one moving him.
    You lose DPS when you DIE. If you get rescued from death you lose 1-2 GCD max.
    Also I have a great solution for you: get yourself a healer friend or two and you will be forever saved from the skill instead of asking for actual hindrance for everyone else who find Rescue useful.
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    Last edited by Miracle_Diva; 02-19-2021 at 01:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    You lose DPS when you DIE. If you get rescued from death you lose 1-2 GCD max.
    Also I have a great solution for you: get yourself a healer friend or two and you will be forever saved from the skill instead of asking for actual hindrance for everyone else who find Rescue useful.
    Rescue has never saved me from DYING, so I don't see your point. Turning it off would've done nothing but save me a bunch of GCDs, which would've only helped the groups I've been in.

    A toggle isn't a hindrance for the people who find it helpful because they can leave the toggle on. Hell, we'll even leave the toggle ON by default so those people won't have to go into their settings at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Well, I've never once been saved from death by Rescue, so there's that. It's only really been used on me a handful of times, and it's only ever hurt my DPS. Honestly, I don't recall if it's ever gone off in time to stop the damage even. One time the Healer was standing in the exact same AoE he was pulling me out of, and we both got hit anyways. That one I couldn't even be mad, at LEAST it was funny.

    That's the point of a toggle. It'll save people like me some grief while allowing the people who still need the help to leave it on.

    Rescue does take control of my character, by the way. I'm not the one moving him.


    Sounds to me like you are just really trying hard to make a huge deal out of something that almost never happens, which you even admit in this quote.
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    Last edited by White_Wolf_X; 02-19-2021 at 01:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X View Post


    Sounds to me like you are just really trying hard to make a huge deal out of something that almost never happens, which you even admit in this quote.
    Asking for a toggle isn't making a huge deal. It's a rarely used ability that most Healers aren't very good with. Especially running DF why would I ever want it on? So, let's have the option to toggle it off.

    What's kind of comical is the Healers pretending their Rescue usage is so clutch and indispensable that they need to fight to the death to preserve Rescue exactly as it is. It's interesting the things people will try to convince themselves of in order to feel important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    Asking for a toggle isn't making a huge deal. It's a rarely used ability that most Healers aren't very good with. Especially running DF why would I ever want it on? So, let's have the option to toggle it off.

    What's kind of comical is the Healers pretending their Rescue usage is so clutch and indispensable that they need to fight to the death to preserve Rescue exactly as it is. It's interesting the things people will try to convince themselves of in order to feel important.
    Pretty funny hearing that from you.
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