How to stop Casual players leaving FF14

[Iscah]

Even though SE (Japan) is trying to work against all of this (and I do believe this was the main idea of the creation of XIV), it's clear that a lot of people want the "gud" to be the extent of the game.

That doesn't mean they're obliged to listen to those people over the ones who are enjoying the game in its current state.

[Jirah]

Casual content is far too easy, Hardcore content is far too limited. is there no options for a middle ground?

[Doozer]

Catering to elitists and wanting less brain-dead content are two different things, though.
I, personally, consider content that easy an insult to my intelligence.

I've heard people say you can just choose to not be offended by something, so maybe just choose to not be insulted? Seems like a pretty easy thing to do.

[ForteNightshade]

Yeah you know what game catered to elites? Wildstar. Guess where it is? Oh right. Nowhere. It's gone.

People often cite this, however while it contributed to Wildstar's downfall, it wasn't remotely the cause. The devs had a whole host of content they failed to deliver on, servers were a mess and a host of other issues. It wasn't simply "they made it too hard for casuals."

Casual content is far too easy, Hardcore content is far too limited. is there no options for a middle ground?

Exactly. Why can't we have a middle ground between "drool on the keyboard" and "every mechanic is a one-shot"? I like doing casual content because I don't always want to be jumping into Savage or Ultimate. It's one of the reasons I enjoy the CEs in Bozja. Sadly, most casual content is far too easy. I've used this example plenty, but when I can eat every single attack in E10N I'm supposed to disengage for. Why am I going to? He can't kill me, so there's no reason to care about the mechanic.

[Seoulstar]

Catering to elitists and wanting less brain-dead content are two different things, though.
I, personally, consider content that easy an insult to my intelligence.

Except "brain-dead" seems to be subjective in this situation. Also...that intelligence part just feel as if you're just looking for a reason to feel insulted.

[Fellgon]

They should create a souls like dg, to check for how long these elites will keep playing the game. But diferent of souls that you progress alone, a souls dg that beside be harder you must need help of others, lets see for how many wipes a pro may disband.
A game that you spend more than 30 minutes playing its not a casual game.
FF14 doesnt look like solitaire or sudoku to me, those are casual games. Easy and dificult are also subjective, wen you play this game it may look dificult about the lots of information in screen and things to do, wen i started this game it wasnt like play super mario, but i know that for some players that play for more than 5 years, they feel like they should have soemthing more chalenging. But there are things in this game that may look easy for you, that for firts timers it may feel chalenging too.

If you dont manage Amazon brand, if cant make Elon Musk your employee, dont live outside Earth, you not "Elite" enough! XD

[Katie_Kitty]

okay so this entire post is based on a horrible misunderstanding. Being casual does not need to mean being bad. Casual players can take 5-10 minutes to read their skills and learn how to play properly.

The problem with this game is that people think calling themselves casual means they don't have to actually try or even put the slightest amount of effort into their performance. That couldn't be further from the truth.

[ItMe]

They should create a souls like dg, to check for how long these elites will keep playing the game. But diferent of souls that you progress alone, a souls dg that beside be harder you must need help of others, lets see for how many wipes a pro may disband.

So... kinda like solo runs of a deep dungeon?
Or are you asking for something different?

[Fellgon]

kinda solo deep dungeon souls like dificult...i dont know...maybe a dungeon harde like, if you die you lose all level ups and all items you go so far.

[Wrestlefire769]

That doesn't mean they're obliged to listen to those people over the ones who are enjoying the game in its current state.

Tell the people who want otherwise that.

Here, you can borrow my asbestos suit.