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  1. #31
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coletergeist View Post
    Unfortunately for you, the *majority* here is players enjoy to go fast in dungeons. Everyone has done them over hundreds of times and just want to get it over with.
    off topic, but I absolutely loath this thought process as due to any interesting topics to increase difficulty in dungeons the best counterargument is "thats not what dungeons are for" the same can be said with certain trials and the tougher 8 man "raids" like Omega and Eden where with a group of first timer its impossible to be swift. I dont do dungeons to get it over with it completely undermines the point of a game as there is no incentive to do so, besides time which....we are playing a MMO
    (8)
    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
    -Live letter 66, 9/17/21

    Where is the ambition?

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    Player Wrestlefire769's Avatar
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    Hel Sonofraiser
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    Again, maybe a lot of the elite players WANT the casuals gone. You're in a Catch-22 there. Hard.
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  3. #33
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    Tempest Moon
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    Behemoth
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    5, 10 or even 100 elite players (Vegitas) cant sustain a billionaire company, with billionares spends. I like casual players, i help those that are friendly.
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    Last edited by Fellgon; 02-16-2021 at 02:35 PM.

  4. #34
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    Lore Halloway
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    I understand what you are getting at. They do have systems in place but it would be a nice to create a separate Q for players to be able to Q to help solely new players for a bonus reward. But in terms of players that are not new that want to play dungeons slow. You'll need to make a PF or play with an FC
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  5. #35
    Player Wrestlefire769's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fellgon View Post
    5, 10 or even 100 elite players (Vegitas) cant sustain a billionaire company, with billionares spends. I like casual players, i help those that are friendly.
    Sorry, but that's from a company perspective -- it's one of the reasons a lot of elites bang their heads against the wall with respect to SE.
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  6. #36
    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    Sorry, but that's from a company perspective -- it's one of the reasons a lot of elites bang their heads against the wall with respect to SE.
    Perhaps those elites should play something else then. Something that caters to their Elite Needs.
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  7. #37
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    Smol Coffee
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    imo, take your sweet time enjoying cutscenes and plot things you've never seen before, in a dungeon or wherever else regardless of who is in the group, but don't let it become a reason to not try big pulls ever or not learning how to optimize your job because that can be really fun too. Here's an example of my personal experience: I just resubbed this past December after having been unsubbed since ShB was still mostly new and Ultimate Alexander was released. I noticed the Puppets bunker was added in my absence and wanted to clear it, and when I finally got in there I sat and watched everything I could at the last boss cutscenes, but I noticed someone was mentioning afkers/kicks as I got the tail end of a conversation running into the boss arena. I didn't get kicked(this time lol), I didn't even acknowledge it. I seen what I came for and I did my best while trying to figure out the mechanics blindly. some people were probably pissed off, others not so much.
    if there was any questions the first time achievements will tell all for any wondering. Also get this, I wasn't the only first timer there, or the only one running up "late". You aren't alone in wanting to enjoy the game in more than one aspect is what I tend to find, wether it be sprout or veteran player, but it's possible to get into a group of people with no patience for you. be the change you want to see instead of hoping for dev intervention(imo). players that do know their jobs well will be able to tell if you're new or still lacking experience regardless if you have a sprout or not.
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    Last edited by smol_cofe; 02-16-2021 at 04:37 PM. Reason: what was my point again lololol maintenance tangent

  8. #38
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Yeah you know what game catered to elites? Wildstar. Guess where it is? Oh right. Nowhere. It's gone.
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  9. #39
    Player Wrestlefire769's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    Yeah you know what game catered to elites? Wildstar. Guess where it is? Oh right. Nowhere. It's gone.
    It didn't have the brand behind it -- as well as a previous MMO full of such elites being catered to.

    Even though SE (Japan) is trying to work against all of this (and I do believe this was the main idea of the creation of XIV), it's clear that a lot of people want the "gud" to be the extent of the game.
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  10. #40
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    Yeah you know what game catered to elites? Wildstar. Guess where it is? Oh right. Nowhere. It's gone.
    Catering to elitists and wanting less brain-dead content are two different things, though.
    I, personally, consider content that easy an insult to my intelligence.
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