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  1. #1
    Player
    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100

    Unpopular Opinion: Gundam(SGE) Hype

    Being a flex healer who currently progged up to e12s as WHM and then had to clear the tier as Noct AST because of our shield healer leaving and now practicing SCH again for my groups ultimate prog while we wait for 6.0 I have to say whatever they do to healers this next coming expansion isn't going to stop me from liking healer.

    That aside I'm really looking forward to becoming a gundam.

    Like a lot. The weapon design is probably one of the best in the game if not the best with so much potential for designs, especially their ultimate weapons dear god.
    If they wanted to I'm sure they could make the fin funnels anything of relative size as long as the lasers/actions come out at the same point as the animations. Imagine controlling 4 floating swords, crosses, icecream cones, waterguns, etc. I know they won't do any of that but the weapon design is just so cool and they could even simply change the color of the beams to add amazing customization(tbh they should probably allow this for every job >.>).

    Hope everyone is doing good.
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    I don't think it's an unpopular opinion. Concerns for sure, but if anything gives potential for them to address them...just a question of whether they do. I think the best way to describe how I feel about Sage is "cautiously optimistic". I am excited to see what Sage is like. It looks cool, is stylish as heck and I think the whole aesthetic going for it is great and am hype about that. I know during the broadcast my reaction was very, "Oh damn!"

    I've been wanting to see some kind of "tech" healer and whilst I speculated/wished for a more tech orientated Chemist, this still hits for me, although they use aether as an explanation and it looks Sharlayan, it still plays to that aesthetic. The fact it's going to be a shield healer is positive for me, as I prefer it to pure healing but that's a bit where some of my caution is with my optimism.

    And I can see it appealing to people who don't like the look & feel of current healers, if they're too 'magey' for their liking.
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  3. #3
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    ItMe's Avatar
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Gundam disappoints me at every turn and I'm super looking forward to the new healer.
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    A lot of people are more cautious about Sage than optimistic or pessimistic.

    We know more about sage than healing as a whole atm, and that's why everyone is in wait and see mode if they aren't an Astrologian which are in justifiable panic mode.
    We know the following: its got shields from Astro and Whm's lost self buffing niche. Its AF gear, weapon and poses. It will start at 70 (ofc) and so their first levelling dungeon is going to be the difficult hominister switch with its mass of scorpions near the start.

    Meanwhile what we don't know:
    Will shields finally stack or continue to be inferior to raw hp?
    Will healers get some resemblance of a downtime back aside from pressing 2, 1, 1, 1, 1 etc or will we be stuck as "pure healers" again
    Will the stat squish be weighted to make healing requirements heavier or are we gonna be in the same state as before with 75% of our buttons being dps
    Will mp become a resource again rather than just a limit on raises?
    Are the devs going to acknowledge and fix the monumental volume of problems on healers they added in throughout stormblood and budgetbringers or double down on them?
    Are the levelling kits going to be fixed at all or will they still have less going into sastacha now than they did back in ARR?
    Will Sage be a magical girl with lasers instead of glitter, or will it be a proper techy healer thats not overly feminine for a change?
    Will healers start moving away from being in nightwear and robes and into armour or are we going to suffer in the glamour department again?
    Will whm get its elements back and expand on the lillies or will they delete assize and misery for not being "pure healer" enough?
    Will sch get its fairies back or are they gonna be further butchered and try and delete energy drain again?
    Will Astros get their time magic and cards back as compensation for losing noct sect?

    I could go on but you get the idea. They haven't given us much to work on, and their recent reasoning and statements do not give cause to be optimistic for the current 3. Sage is a different beast since new jobs are always more flashy and varied to entice players to try them out so it could well be a scenario where sage is fun but whm/sch/ast aren't
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    SpiralMask's Avatar
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    Aubrenard Sondraix
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    oh i love sage, and everyone i've seen or heard on the topic also is quite excited for the class (especially my ex-AST fc buddy who's been looking for a new class since they double-lobotomized his main).

    ...it's just healers in general that people are leery of unless something big changes in 6.0, since SGE will be just as plagued with their issues otherwise, which will ruin any enthusiasm the class might have initially had.
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    Rigor Mortex
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    Odin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    What I do like about sage already is the weapon animation that looks like Vayne Carudas Solidor and his swords and how they move.
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    The aesthetics of the job have me hyped, though I don't watch Gundam so idk what's supposed to be similar to Gundam here. How much I'll actually play it, we'll have to see in 6.0.
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    though I don't watch Gundam so idk what's supposed to be similar to Gundam here.
    It's just in that it's a robot remote laser weapon.
    Some dudes in Gundam use similar things, but it's far from being unique to or a reference to Gundam.
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  9. #9
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    A lot of people are more cautious about Sage than optimistic or pessimistic.

    We know more about sage than healing as a whole atm, and that's why everyone is in wait and see mode if they aren't an Astrologian which are in justifiable panic mode.
    We know the following: its got shields from Astro and Whm's lost self buffing niche. Its AF gear, weapon and poses. It will start at 70 (ofc) and so their first levelling dungeon is going to be the difficult hominister switch with its mass of scorpions near the start.

    Meanwhile what we don't know:
    Will shields finally stack or continue to be inferior to raw hp?
    Will healers get some resemblance of a downtime back aside from pressing 2, 1, 1, 1, 1 etc or will we be stuck as "pure healers" again
    Will the stat squish be weighted to make healing requirements heavier or are we gonna be in the same state as before with 75% of our buttons being dps
    Will mp become a resource again rather than just a limit on raises?
    Are the devs going to acknowledge and fix the monumental volume of problems on healers they added in throughout stormblood and budgetbringers or double down on them?
    Are the levelling kits going to be fixed at all or will they still have less going into sastacha now than they did back in ARR?
    Will Sage be a magical girl with lasers instead of glitter, or will it be a proper techy healer thats not overly feminine for a change?
    Will healers start moving away from being in nightwear and robes and into armour or are we going to suffer in the glamour department again?
    Will whm get its elements back and expand on the lillies or will they delete assize and misery for not being "pure healer" enough?
    Will sch get its fairies back or are they gonna be further butchered and try and delete energy drain again?
    Will Astros get their time magic and cards back as compensation for losing noct sect?

    I could go on but you get the idea. They haven't given us much to work on, and their recent reasoning and statements do not give cause to be optimistic for the current 3. Sage is a different beast since new jobs are always more flashy and varied to entice players to try them out so it could well be a scenario where sage is fun but whm/sch/ast aren't
    Pretty much this. That demo really did not give us anything beyond some flashy animations, a poor weapon design (by my preferences) as a teaser. It's purely marketing.

    I am definitely in the cautious or even pessimistic category.
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  10. #10
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    manamoppet's Avatar
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    Astral Thalia
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Agree with you. Hope one of their weapons will look fey-inspired, like the Titania sets, or something like Yuna's Floral Fallal dressphere (:
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