dungeons are supposed to be get in, get out though. I don't want to be spending upwards of 45 minutes in one.
dungeons are supposed to be get in, get out though. I don't want to be spending upwards of 45 minutes in one.
At that stage, if their intention is purely a chore to be done with as soon as possible for rewards, it's worth asking why even have dungeons at all? Sure it keeps players on the treadmill, but there are probably more cost-effective ways of doing the same, especially when it doesn't matter if it's fun or not. Perhaps one reason we lost a dungeon per patch, the Devs simply thought "what's the point of using resources on this?".
It doesn't help that they're stubbornly against Mythic+ and the "15 minute faceroll for tomes/exp" is the only format they'll consider. The fact they were happier simply deleting a dungeon every patch rather than even giving it a chance is just disappointing really.
People say they want to get in and out of dungeons quickly, but why is that? I'd go ahead and claim that it is because they are so boring. They offer nothing but those 90 tomestones once a day, it's just a bunch of hallways interrupted by a circle or square with a boss in it and they offer neither decent loot nor any kind of challenge or engagement, so of course you just want to quickly get those done and forget about them again.At that stage, if their intention is purely a chore to be done with as soon as possible for rewards, it's worth asking why even have dungeons at all? Sure it keeps players on the treadmill, but there are probably more cost-effective ways of doing the same, especially when it doesn't matter if it's fun or not. Perhaps one reason we lost a dungeon per patch, the Devs simply thought "what's the point of using resources on this?".
Tbh the way dungeons currently are we might as well really get rid of them, atleast all the "expert" dungeons. In terms of efficiency they're a joke compared to hunt trains, where you gain almost double the amount of tomestones in the same amount of time.

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Putrid to say the best thing about dungeons is that they are quick....i dont "play" anything to get it over with. and people always act like we desire Dungeon savage (which is a fun concept) but Yoship literally said they will never make hardcore content for a 4 man ALL WE ASK is that they make them interesting add a few mechs add some curvballs why bother playing anything if its just to get out quicker.
“Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
-Live letter 66, 9/17/21
Where is the ambition?

The dungeons don't need to be long. They simply need to be more challenging. The reward for doing them well will be a speedy run.
If it is already determined that leveling dungeons will not be fun content, we don't need them as in-game chores. Just have the game automatically mail me gear when I ding. How can FFXIV have so many beautifully-designed classes and no lowbie content where I can use them? It is like having a sportscar that is not allowed to go above 40 mph, shift gears or make turns.
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