Does Square intend to address Market botting?

[Jojoya]

Jojoya and his friends win I suppose. .

They aren't my friends and you really need to stop stating that they are.

I gave you a dose of reality based on my years of MMO experience. You thought you knew better. Now you understand why I've stopped obsessing over bots.

Again, absolutely report anyone if you've come across undeniable proof that they are botting or cheating in some way. I still do.

But don't let their existence get to you because it's just a game. It's not worth it..

[Dragonkat]

They aren't my friends and you really need to stop stating that they are.

I gave you a dose of reality based on my years of MMO experience. You thought you knew better. Now you understand why I've stopped obsessing over bots.

Again, absolutely report anyone if you've come across undeniable proof that they are botting or cheating in some way. I still do.

But don't let their existence get to you because it's just a game. It's not worth it..

Which still boils down to "Cheating is a fact of life, deal with it."

Which is unacceptable because it still makes crafting pointless because the bots control the market.
Which is unacceptable because you're passive accepting of cheating encourages it.
but most of all it's unacceptable because...

Square. Isn't. Enforcing. Their. Own. EULA! Despite endless reports of the problems!

How hard of a concept is that for you to get Jojoya? I'm glad you're fine with it. a lot of us out here AREN'T. Because a large part of our game is being impacted by it.

[Yureina]

Which still boils down to "Cheating is a fact of life, deal with it."

Which is unacceptable because it still makes crafting pointless because the bots control the market.
Which is unacceptable because you're passive accepting of cheating encourages it.
but most of all it's unacceptable because...

Square. Isn't. Enforcing. Their. Own. EULA! Despite endless reports of the problems!

How hard of a concept is that for you to get Jojoya? I'm glad you're fine with it. a lot of us out here AREN'T. Because a large part of our game is being impacted by it.

They also didn't do anything about one of my FC mates getting hacked and handing all 64M of the FC chest's money to a low level alt. Apparently they can't restore it because it wasn't my friend's money. Hackers are also very much part of the RMT business.

On another note, if anyone is willing to come to Coeurl, Rhalgr's Reach at 10.0, 12.4... please do. I need a second opinion on whether or not this guy is botting.

[Wrestlefire769]

Square. Isn't. Enforcing. Their. Own. EULA! Despite endless reports of the problems!

How hard of a concept is that for you to get Jojoya? I'm glad you're fine with it. a lot of us out here AREN'T. Because a large part of our game is being impacted by it.

They are under no legal obligation to do so -- Leung vs. Square-Enix.

I have asserted that Square-Enix, outside of Japan, has been in league with this type of player for a very long time (at least 15 years, possibly more, going back to FFXI). You're going to need to hurt Square-Enix in a way that the Japanese hierarchy of the game, and specifically them, MUST take action. And there may not be a way to do that.

[Angelhearth]

They are under no legal obligation to do so -- Leung vs. Square-Enix.

I have asserted that Square-Enix, outside of Japan, has been in league with this type of player for a very long time (at least 15 years, possibly more, going back to FFXI). You're going to need to hurt Square-Enix in a way that the Japanese hierarchy of the game, and specifically them, MUST take action. And there may not be a way to do that.

What is "vs" with him and SE? According to LinkedIN he's working as a QA for them, and has done so for over 12 years.

[Wrestlefire769]

What is "vs" with him and SE? According to LinkedIN he's working as a QA for them, and has done so for over 12 years.

I don't think we're talking about the same person.

There was a lawsuit -- here, lemme go find something here...

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/5-.../1100-6214710/

Spelled the name wrong: Leong vs. Square-Enix.

The case was decided against and the judge basically said SE (nor anyone else) has an obligation to uphold their end of the TOS.

Cheating is a fact of life.
Do what you can about it.
Push SQEX to do more about it.
But don't let it push you overboard.

What if you functionally cannot?

And what if, worse, it basically obstructs the gameplay of others to try??

[ItMe]

What if you functionally cannot?

And what if, worse, it basically obstructs the gameplay of others to try??

Part ways with it.
Stop engaging with something making you that miserable.
If it's that upsetting and interfering with how you function it needs to be left in the dust.

And I don't understand that last part.
What do you mean?
You are obstructing the gameplay of others by trying?

[Angelhearth]

I don't think we're talking about the same person.

There was a lawsuit -- here, lemme go find something here...

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/5-.../1100-6214710/

Spelled the name wrong: Leong vs. Square-Enix.

That lawsuit was about the subscription and payment of such and not even close to what we're talking about here, in my opinion.

[Wrestlefire769]

That lawsuit was about the subscription and payment of such and not even close to what we're talking about here, in my opinion.

The decision went beyond that, into realms which are.

[ItMe]

They are under no legal obligation to do so -- Leung vs. Square-Enix.

Is this a... court case??