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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonkat View Post
    Square. Isn't. Enforcing. Their. Own. EULA! Despite endless reports of the problems!

    How hard of a concept is that for you to get Jojoya? I'm glad you're fine with it. a lot of us out here AREN'T. Because a large part of our game is being impacted by it.
    They are under no legal obligation to do so -- Leung vs. Square-Enix.

    I have asserted that Square-Enix, outside of Japan, has been in league with this type of player for a very long time (at least 15 years, possibly more, going back to FFXI). You're going to need to hurt Square-Enix in a way that the Japanese hierarchy of the game, and specifically them, MUST take action. And there may not be a way to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    They are under no legal obligation to do so -- Leung vs. Square-Enix.

    I have asserted that Square-Enix, outside of Japan, has been in league with this type of player for a very long time (at least 15 years, possibly more, going back to FFXI). You're going to need to hurt Square-Enix in a way that the Japanese hierarchy of the game, and specifically them, MUST take action. And there may not be a way to do that.
    What is "vs" with him and SE? According to LinkedIN he's working as a QA for them, and has done so for over 12 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelhearth View Post
    What is "vs" with him and SE? According to LinkedIN he's working as a QA for them, and has done so for over 12 years.
    I don't think we're talking about the same person.

    There was a lawsuit -- here, lemme go find something here...

    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/5-.../1100-6214710/

    Spelled the name wrong: Leong vs. Square-Enix.

    The case was decided against and the judge basically said SE (nor anyone else) has an obligation to uphold their end of the TOS.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Cheating is a fact of life.
    Do what you can about it.
    Push SQEX to do more about it.
    But don't let it push you overboard.
    What if you functionally cannot?

    And what if, worse, it basically obstructs the gameplay of others to try??
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    Last edited by Wrestlefire769; 01-29-2021 at 05:02 AM. Reason: Saw additional point to make...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    What if you functionally cannot?

    And what if, worse, it basically obstructs the gameplay of others to try??
    Part ways with it.
    Stop engaging with something making you that miserable.
    If it's that upsetting and interfering with how you function it needs to be left in the dust.

    And I don't understand that last part.
    What do you mean?
    You are obstructing the gameplay of others by trying?
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    Last edited by ItMe; 01-29-2021 at 07:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    I don't think we're talking about the same person.

    There was a lawsuit -- here, lemme go find something here...

    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/5-.../1100-6214710/

    Spelled the name wrong: Leong vs. Square-Enix.
    That lawsuit was about the subscription and payment of such and not even close to what we're talking about here, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angelhearth View Post
    That lawsuit was about the subscription and payment of such and not even close to what we're talking about here, in my opinion.
    The decision went beyond that, into realms which are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wrestlefire769 View Post
    They are under no legal obligation to do so -- Leung vs. Square-Enix.
    Is this a... court case??
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