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    Quote Originally Posted by Themarvin View Post
    Make it a gil sink and a good one, it also flushes out the black market/RMT FC/House sellers on reddit.
    A gil sink? Kind of, but not really. At least nothing of any substance. It wouldn't put much of a dent in the amount of gil people have. It also wouldn't flush out the "black market" at all because the gil amounts would be trivial anyway. So...we're back to square one.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-17-2021 at 04:18 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    ... don't they do this to try and flip them?
    A raffle system would make reselling houses even harder. More competition = less chance for the intended buyer to get the house.

    The FC route exists, though it's not available for those who are members in some other FC and don't want to leave it. To further discourage that abuse, there could be some kind of restriction of leadership transfer, like you have to be a member of the FC for a month or two before you can be made the leader. That won't make shell FCs entirely useless for house flipping, but should lower the throughput and tie up resources for the flippers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    A raffle system would make reselling houses even harder. More competition = less chance for the intended buyer to get the house.
    Increased competition/demand sounds like it would lead to flippers being able to charge more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    A raffle system would make reselling houses even harder. More competition = less chance for the intended buyer to get the house.
    Which would be bad for everyone trying to get a house, not just resellers. It would do more harm than good in the long run. People just don't realize that, apparently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Reselling will never be stopped as long as the price houses are sold for fails to reflect anything close to the true value. Placard prices should have been raised years ago; the second best time would be now. No number of rules or regulations or Byzantine processes will prevent it until then.
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    Well put in a required 1 year of subscription then to buy, then you would.. flush out the gil farmers bots, as they usually get suspended after a month or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Which would be bad for everyone trying to get a house, not just resellers. It would do more harm than good in the long run. People just don't realize that, apparently.
    And what about all the people who want a house but don't want to camp the placard for hours? How is this bad for them? Or do you want to make an argument about placard campers being more deserving a house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    And what about all the people who want a house but don't want to camp the placard for hours? How is this bad for them? Or do you want to make an argument about placard campers being more deserving a house?
    It increases competition significantly, so the chances of getting a house just went from "well, probably not..." to "lol not in a million years". Neither parties are more deserving of a plot than the other, but you need to consider the ramifications. It doesn't fix the underlying issues plaguing housing. A raffle would take the biggest problem (supply and demand) and suddenly make it significantly worse for the average player.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-19-2021 at 07:46 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It increases competition significantly, so the chances of getting a house just went from "well, probably not..." to "lol not in a million years".
    That's for the players who do camp the placards. Those who don't want to camp will see their chances go up, because previously they had zero chance.

    It's mathematically impossible for everyone's odds to worsen. But you have to include the same people both before and after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdb View Post
    That's for the players who do camp the placards. Those who don't want to camp will see their chances go up, because previously they had zero chance.

    It's mathematically impossible for everyone's odds to worsen. But you have to include the same people both before and after.
    O.o You are going from competeing with a few people at a placard. To going against everyone on your world who does not have a house...tell me how your odds are now better. In a raffle the more people enter the lower your chances of winning are.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 01-20-2021 at 07:23 AM.

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