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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    She also said "let's summon the Ananta that still really hate us for a peace summit. Let's just sit in a circle on the floor and talk it all out. It'll be fine!" Spoilers: it wasn't fine. They attacked, which anyone who wasn't her should have seen coming a mile away
    I don't think Lyse was well-written overall, but I'm tired of this scene being held up as a example of her incompetence because she wasn't at fault in the way everyone seems to remember it.

    She* invited every tribe in the region, because if she didn't then it would have been politically awkward and they probably would have taken offence and become more hostile.

    * (I'm not sure that it was her personal decision who to invite, anyway.)

    Additionally, the expected outcome was that the Qalyana would refuse the invitation anyway, so it caught everyone by surprise when they actually arrived - and would have been even more politically awkward to refuse to let them participate at that point. This wasn't a single-handed decision by Lyse, but supported by Raubahn.

    They also didn't simply trust the Qalyana, but treated them as suspicious and took precautions to ban them from bringing crystals into the chamber, specifically to prevent them from being able to conduct a summoning if that was the intent. They just failed to consider the possibility that crystals had been planted in the room already by sympathetic, tempered Resistance members.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't think Lyse was well-written overall, but I'm tired of this scene being held up as a example of her incompetence because she wasn't at fault in the way everyone seems to remember it.

    She* invited every tribe in the region, because if she didn't then it would have been politically awkward and they probably would have taken offence and become more hostile.

    * (I'm not sure that it was her personal decision who to invite, anyway.)

    Additionally, the expected outcome was that the Qalyana would refuse the invitation anyway, so it caught everyone by surprise when they actually arrived - and would have been even more politically awkward to refuse to let them participate at that point. This wasn't a single-handed decision by Lyse, but supported by Raubahn.

    They also didn't simply trust the Qalyana, but treated them as suspicious and took precautions to ban them from bringing crystals into the chamber, specifically to prevent them from being able to conduct a summoning if that was the intent. They just failed to consider the possibility that crystals had been planted in the room already by sympathetic, tempered Resistance members.
    That was just one example, really, not THE example. Her incompetence was felt throughout the entirety of the Stormblood MSQ. I was just using one of the more notable events that comes to my mind. It wasn't entirely her doing but she still had a hand in it. But yeah, she wasn't written very well. This isn't limited to Lyse, sadly. Many characters are poorly written. Lyse just annoys me the most. lol Part of the problem is that she basically materialized out of thin air and didn't really have much character development since her reveal, yet she somehow ended up in a leadership role in the end. She didn't change at all during the entire story of Stormblood. There was no baptism by fire, although I think that is what they were trying to do but ultimately failed. She was just thrown into it and seemingly learned very little. To this day, she remains next to useless.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 01-13-2021 at 04:29 PM.
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