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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    the filter is there for a reason, for those that do not want to be exposed to that kind of language, even by accident. it is NOT there so that someone can curse up a storm and use it for an excuse.

    as one game developer once said about profanity filters, they are there to stop accidental swearing, not to invite it wholesale any more than wearing a bullet proof vest okays people to shoot you.
    Ah yes, just as I have repeated my same old sarcastic remark, it seems it has gotten what looks the the same old reply.

    Exactly! If someone doesn't want to be exposed to that kind of language (Lord help us), you know what they can do? Turn on the profanity filter! Wow! Then they can skip the whole "offended" routine, because they cannot see the bad words! BUT WAIT! That won't do! What if they want to be offended?! They would have to know exactly what was said, so they know EXACTLY how to be offended.. so why have the filter on?! Gotta write the GMs a nice little report, with a sob story about.. something or other, to get that person(s) banned!

    It's not just that bad words should be discouraged, no, no. It's about RETRIBUTION! A tiny little slip equals a STRIKE on a person's account, just a couple* more and they are OUT! This community is set at a higher standard than others, we cannot have that kind of toxicity here! Only the most severe penalties will discourage this kind of behavior!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Ah yes, just as I have repeated my same old sarcastic remark, it seems it has gotten what looks the the same old reply.

    Exactly! If someone doesn't want to be exposed to that kind of language (Lord help us), you know what they can do? Turn on the profanity filter! Wow! Then they can skip the whole "offended" routine, because they cannot see the bad words! BUT WAIT! That won't do! What if they want to be offended?! They would have to know exactly what was said, so they know EXACTLY how to be offended.. so why have the filter on?! Gotta write the GMs a nice little report, with a sob story about.. something or other, to get that person(s) banned!

    It's not just that bad words should be discouraged, no, no. It's about RETRIBUTION! A tiny little slip equals a STRIKE on a person's account, just a couple* more and they are OUT! This community is set at a higher standard than others, we cannot have that kind of toxicity here! Only the most severe penalties will discourage this kind of behavior!
    might I remind you of what you digitally signed which removes your right to curse as freely as you wish.

    3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.

    the presence of a profanity filter does not absolve you of that agreement in any way. at all. period.
    not saying a gm lurks around every corner, but you can hardly be aware of where they are at all times. maybe you werent even reported by someone with a filter on. but regardless... it doesnt matter.

    while your tired sarcastic remark generated the same reply (perhaps you need to come up with new material) I am sure you will again recognize the response. and your next reply will most likely involve something about "free speech" which I will point out in advance... in a game, YOU DONT HAVE THAT RIGHT. games are "private property" so to speak and the owner of said property sets the rules.

    you have the right to leave if you dont like the rules. its that simple, but by playing, (whether or not you actually read the rules) you have agreed to follow the arbitrary rules they set forth, and one of those rules involves language.

    besides, unlikely you get a strike for a "tiny little slip". I would say it had to have been a rather large "slip" and if it involved a couple more... sounds like its a bigger problem than a little one off occurrence.

    Edit: I would also like to point out that this isnt verbal. you can slip up SPEAKING... but if you have to type out the words and hit enter, its not much of a "slip" its a choice. you choose to put what you have typed out into the world every time you hit enter. so it is a lot harder to believe the "tiny little slip" scenario. specially if it continually happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    might I remind you of what you digitally signed which removes your right to curse as freely as you wish.

    3.3 Profanity and Offensive Language. You may not use profanity or any language that a reasonable person would find offensive. The Game is for players aged 13 and older. You agree to behave accordingly.

    the presence of a profanity filter does not absolve you of that agreement in any way. at all. period.
    not saying a gm lurks around every corner, but you can hardly be aware of where they are at all times. maybe you werent even reported by someone with a filter on. but regardless... it doesnt matter.

    while your tired sarcastic remark generated the same reply (perhaps you need to come up with new material) I am sure you will again recognize the response. and your next reply will most likely involve something about "free speech" which I will point out in advance... in a game, YOU DONT HAVE THAT RIGHT. games are "private property" so to speak and the owner of said property sets the rules.

    you have the right to leave if you dont like the rules. its that simple, but by playing, (whether or not you actually read the rules) you have agreed to follow the arbitrary rules they set forth, and one of those rules involves language.

    besides, unlikely you get a strike for a "tiny little slip". I would say it had to have been a rather large "slip" and if it involved a couple more... sounds like its a bigger problem than a little one off occurrence.

    Edit: I would also like to point out that this isnt verbal. you can slip up SPEAKING... but if you have to type out the words and hit enter, its not much of a "slip" its a choice. you choose to put what you have typed out into the world every time you hit enter. so it is a lot harder to believe the "tiny little slip" scenario. specially if it continually happens.
    I don't curse at all in-game or here on the forums. Don't have to remind me anything. They actually police the game as if it was meant for 5 year olds, not 13 and up, for that matter anyway. I've actually read their ToS, multiple times. They can ban you for pretty much* anything and everything. Even here on the forums. That's the way it's written. And yes, they do ban for pretty much anything and everything, all it takes is a report.

    A GM isn't lurking around every corner, it's the playerbase ("community") that is. Never know when someone will hit that report button. I know for a fact people love hitting it every single chance they get, seen some brag about it even.

    Come up with new material? I look to other's for inspiration! Oh, give me a break.. "Free speech" , I have actively argued against that. I've definitely done it here on these forums in the past, I am a person with many different views.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    Edit: I would also like to point out that this isnt verbal. you can slip up SPEAKING... but if you have to type out the words and hit enter, its not much of a "slip" its a choice. you choose to put what you have typed out into the world every time you hit enter. so it is a lot harder to believe the "tiny little slip" scenario. specially if it continually happens.
    Some people type fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I don't curse at all in-game or here on the forums. Don't have to remind me anything. They actually police the game as if it was meant for 5 year olds, not 13 and up, for that matter anyway. I've actually read their ToS, multiple times. They can ban you for pretty much* anything and everything. Even here on the forums. That's the way it's written. And yes, they do ban for pretty much anything and everything, all it takes is a report.

    A GM isn't lurking around every corner, it's the playerbase ("community") that is. Never know when someone will hit that report button. I know for a fact people love hitting it every single chance they get, seen some brag about it even.

    Come up with new material? I look to other's for inspiration! Oh, give me a break.. "Free speech" , I have actively argued against that. I've definitely done it here on these forums in the past, I am a person with many different views.
    I mean, let's check the ESRB here...HMMMMMMMMMMM

    Rated T for Teen.
    - Alcohol Reference
    - Animated Blood
    - Language
    - Suggestive Themes
    - Violence

    Yeah, uh...it says it on the tin boss. Sounds a bit sketchy if you ask me in terms of using LANGUAGE(and most T for Teen don't include the B word, yet they use the word whore in one of the lines Asahi says towards the end of Under the Moonlight. But in general, I think it's more or less using said language in a harassing manner that ticks most people. And there's the occasional 'shite' from some of the people in Eorzea here and there.
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