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    I really enjoyed this patch's story on all fronts.
    That said, I do have a couple of minor (major?) gripes regarding some story choices/details.

    MSQ
    While it was appropriate that they used Sephirot as an example for explaining the inner workings of tempering, I felt like there could've been better candidates for doing so.
    The reason being that, when they showed what would happen if a Primal/Eikon were to "overtemper" someone, they showed said person becoming a Cochna/Binah.

    Are we meant to imply that those weren't actually "lesser aspects" of Sephirot (like Titan's Granite Gaolers), but rather, overtempered victims?
    If not, then that was kind of a big oversight.

    Using Sophia as an example would've made more sense, considering her "faithful" were really "overtempered" victims (her 3 "Demiurges").


    Eden
    Choosing the Cloud of Darkness (an interpretation of it, at any rate) as a dark Primal was rather baffling to say the least.

    So has the WoL never faced a dark Primal before? Really?
    What about Odin, the "Dark Divinity"?
    Or how about Tsukuyomi, "Goddess of the Moon and Divinity of the Night"?

    If those don't qualify as dark Primals, then they really must explain which aspects (or lack thereof) each post-ARR Primal represent...
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    Forever waiting on *new* Egis/summons (e.g. Ramuh-Egi).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus-E View Post
    I Eden
    Choosing the Cloud of Darkness (an interpretation of it, at any rate) as a dark Primal was rather baffling to say the least.

    So has the WoL never faced a dark Primal before? Really?
    What about Odin, the "Dark Divinity"?
    Or how about Tsukuyomi, "Goddess of the Moon and Divinity of the Night"?

    If those don't qualify as dark Primals, then they really must explain which aspects (or lack thereof) each post-ARR Primal represent...
    I don't think it's that strange a choice.

    Odin is an optional trial still, and while Tsukuyomi might theoretically work as a dark primal by her title, her theme is more about a duality of dark and light.

    You could also suppose that the WoL's thoughts are already tipped towards remembering the World of Darkness by recent events - as well as discussions within the Eden quest line itself, they've been reunited with G'raha and have also had at least some discussion of the Thirteenth with Cyella, possibly even undertaking the recent Void quests already.

    And ultimately I'm not sure if it really matters what form the Eden-primal takes as long as it reminds us of the element and allows us to picture it and draw it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't think it's that strange a choice.

    Odin is an optional trial still, and while Tsukuyomi might theoretically work as a dark primal by her title, her theme is more about a duality of dark and light.

    You could also suppose that the WoL's thoughts are already tipped towards remembering the World of Darkness by recent events - as well as discussions within the Eden quest line itself, they've been reunited with G'raha and have also had at least some discussion of the Thirteenth with Cyella, possibly even undertaking the recent Void quests already.

    And ultimately I'm not sure if it really matters what form the Eden-primal takes as long as it reminds us of the element and allows us to picture it and draw it out.

    Fair enough, I guess.
    Still, I can't help but feel like there could have been other candidates for creating a dark Primal, even if we weren't limited to them originally being Primals at all.
    Tiamat or Nidhogg come to mind, for instance.

    (Now where's my Cloud of Darkness-Egi...)
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    Forever waiting on *new* Egis/summons (e.g. Ramuh-Egi).