Vote for GNB Sounds

[Vahlnir]

Let it go. Pump up your music, turn down your sound effects, and get on with it.

This is pretty much where I am at this point. Would I complain if they were to do a complete 180 and returned the old SFX? Probably not. I liked them. But I also don't mind what we have now. To be honest, I might not have noticed they made the changes if people hadn't brought it up, though I did notice the explosions sounded a bit more crisp, which I liked.

[Jeido]

If you had read the entirety of the thread, then you'd have realized that it isn't only opposition that brings out the vitriol, but neutrality.

It is ultimately a thread of "I liked this, I want it back". That's fine. However, it unfortunately is easily counterbalanced by "I do not." These are subjective stances, based on individual preference and want.

And let us not pretend the OG sounders are not at fault. Their initial tone and lampooning and insistence on degraded sound quality just because they disagree with it sets the tone.

There also comes a time when you just have to let it die. The average fruit fly lifespan is twice as long as these sound effects existed in the live game. The odds of them returning those sound effects to the baseline combo are effectively zero at this point.

Let it go. Pump up your music, turn down your sound effects, and get on with it.

"OG sounders" Woah, we even have a name now. And tell me more about how "neutrality" brings vitriol when said neutrality is, and let me quote: "Just close this thread XD" "you people keep crying like babies" "take your temper tantrum elsewhere" "stop acting like a Karen" and so on. Some of those quite ironically being from one of the persons who are now saying that we are "ripping through their opinion". And that was just 3 pages that I randomly picked. But your answer just proves exactly what I was saying, and I thank you for that

[samuraipew7]

Jeido has hit the nail on the head. Those that liked the original sounds have been attacked, harassed and trolled just for voicing our opinion. Be it here, reddit or in game. I've even had death threats towards myself several times since the patch SE changed them. So it hardly seems fair to me that you point fingers towards most people in this thread that liked the old ones as being rude. Sure some tempers have flared, but multiple ideas have been put forward that would be a potential fix/even ground. That's MY point in adding stuff to this thread. I understand the both sides argument but there is room to improve to make both sides happy. A mixed sound set seems to be what most are aiming/happy for when SE decides what to do. And telling us to let it go or move on adds nothing of value to the matter.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

"OG sounders" Woah, we even have a name now. And tell me more about how "neutrality" brings vitriol when said neutrality is, and let me quote: "Just close this thread XD" "you people keep crying like babies" "take your temper tantrum elsewhere" "stop acting like a Karen" and so on. Some of those quite ironically being from one of the persons who are now saying that we are "ripping through their opinion". And that was just 3 pages that I randomly picked. But your answer just proves exactly what I was saying, and I thank you for that

Excuse me?
"Ripping through their opinion" the very first points in this thread where people offered a differing opinion than that of the OG sounders, and they were jumped by said OG sounders instead of accepting the person's reasoning for their choice, instead, said that the person's view is invalid.

I agree with Kabooa as to how this thread started off and language used. The OG sounders made the whole situation doom and gloom world is about to end if people play GNB while devs haven't "fixed" the sounds. The hyperbolic language was by far excessive.

This is my third time posting in this thread, second only because you made an attempt to police one side so your views would go further unopposed in this echo chamber. I merely pointed out that it needs to apply to everyone, regardless of viewpoint. First post was to state what was coming in a past patch, namely TEA and Ishgard restoration, where someone was hoping for a chance at GNB sounds.

[Jeido]

Personally I don't care either way about the sounds, but to say "please don't dismiss the opinion of players who want the old sounds back, even if you like the new ones." yet the people who do want the old sfx back have quite often ripped through the opinion of those that have an opinion different to this echo chamber of a thread. Some of the discussions I've read have been less than civil, and most of this I have seen from the side that want the old sfx back, as if they have been personally offended that someone prefers the new sounds.

So I think that it should extend to both sides tbh, not just those that prefer the new sfx. Do realise this is a FORUM, a place where discussions take place, so you can't have a discussion without an opposing side.

Indeed, not in this thread, but still not really what I would call "being neutral" or simply having a "different opinion" Also, I never attempted to police either side to try to have my views go unopposed, and I apologise if you felt this way. I was just inviting everyone, on both sides, to remain civil, which is harder to do when your opinion keeps getting dismissed, which is why I called that out specifically. I even said that debating in a constructive manner is totally fine, and I'm still waiting for solid arguments outside of "give it up and stop crying lol it has been a year" or "you can't even hear them", which do absolutely nothing to promote a constructive discussion. Blaming it on how the thread started and putting everyone in the same bag is pretty sad, and using that as an excuse for how you act with people here is even sadder. You ignored samuraipew7's message, but do you think it's normal that they got harassed just because they had an opinion?

I also fail to see how our complaining is even an issue. If you are unhappy with us "crying like little babies", why don't you just ignore the threads? Unless you have your own opinion about the sound effects too, of course, but that's not what I see in your posts. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to silence you here, I am just saying that you deliberately choose to go in those threads where people will obviously be passionate about this topic, and even biased for some, and then proceed to make fun and complain about them, instead of ignoring them. Hardly something I would call "civil".

Lastly, I get that it probably makes you feel powerful or superior to call us "OG sounders", but it mostly looks ridiculous and once again doesn't really do anything to promote a constructive discussion. And if you cannot understand why, I sadly can't help you.

With that said, I am done here, as I did not and still do not wish to engage into any drama.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

Indeed, not in this thread, but still not really what I would call "being neutral" or simply having a "different opinion" Also, I never attempted to police either side to try to have my views go unopposed, and I apologise if you felt this way. I was just inviting everyone, on both sides, to remain civil, which is harder to do when your opinion keeps getting dismissed, which is why I called that out specifically. I'm still waiting for solid arguments outside of "give it up and stop crying lol it has been a year" or "you can't even hear them", which does absolutely nothing to promote a constructive discussion. Blaming it on how the thread started and putting everyone in the same bag is pretty sad, and using that as an excuse for how you act with people here is even sadder. I also fail to see how this is even an issue. If you are unhappy with us "crying like little babies", why don't you just ignore the threads? Unless you have your own opinion about the sound effects too, of course, but that's not what I see in your posts. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to silence you here, I am just saying that you deliberately choose to go in those threads where people will obviously be passionate about this topic, and even biased for some, and then proceed to make fun and complain about them, instead of ignoring them. Hardly something I would call "civil".

Lastly, I get that it probably makes you feel powerful or superior to call us "OG sounders", but it mostly looks ridiculous and once again doesn't really do anything to promote a constructive discussion. And if you cannot understand why, I sadly can't help you.

With that said, I am done here, as I did not and still do not wish to engage into any drama.

first off the "OG sounders" was memeing on your reaction to be completely honest. Also you say, you do not wish to engage in drama but you keep doing so. So seems you kinda do, but trying to save face by saying otherwise. And going through my previous comments on this specific matter to further engage with me on this topic. Further within this thread, I rarely have seen people dismiss the want of the old sound effects back, yet I have seen the OP dismiss the health of another player due to sound effects.

Yes the screenshots were from Another thread, first one well it speaks for itself, making a new thread, complaining over something that was not gonna happen, when it was specifically addressed what changes were going to happen, which did not include GNB sound effects. Oh look, I also said the old sounds for the Solid Barrel combo were better. I am also a realist who has played this game for over 6 years and accustomed to how developers release content and how they address changes in a certain fashion. I found making the new forum post to complain is a waste of forum space when this thread was already active.

Second post, again the same person that directed people to specifically message the developers on their personal social media accounts (reference within this very thread), who has imho taken the sound changes way too personal, I told to chill with their hyperbolic ranting. Again one of the original people looking for the old sound effects back. At the time of posting there was more pertinent issue to be address, that I felt were more demanding of the developers time than addressing GNB that still plays more than fine. Sound effects should not interfere with you ability to play the job. Again I asked them to be patient.

You should remember XIV is a service, so while we can give input, ultimately it is on the developers to decide which input they choose to follow if any.

[WhyAmIHere]

I am not fond of the term "OG Sounders" knowing what sounding is.
Can we just go with "OG Boomers?" or something else that isn't so... well. Cant really put into terms why. It's just not a kosher moniker ya know?

[Kabooa]

I am not fond of the term "OG Sounders" knowing what sounding is.
Can we just go with "OG Boomers?" or something else that isn't so... well. Cant really put into terms why. It's just not a kosher moniker ya know?

I have never regretted a quick google search more.

[Karious]

Yeah you guys can meme and dab on us all you want, but I beg you, please don't associate us with that shit.

[TheBlueRogue]

Bring back the OG, let the players decide in game what they want to hear. Is that too difficult to implement or is SE just lazy?