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  1. #541
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    personally im still care about this issue, and i care a lot, the current sfx make the job don't have the impact it use to have at the release and it's obvious is still a thing we want to change, just bcs the dev team ignored this request doesn't mean we should stop complaing or talk about it.

    all being said after so long being complety ignored and see no move from the dev team i would recomend request a answer about what the dev team things over the current situation as soon as posible in form of,dev team the feedback is not clear? don't know how to proceed maybe or need to make the petition more specific and clear? (despite the first post asking directly to a revert of the soundeffect with a poll showing a overwelming mayority for the revert), i mean anything so us as a comunity can proceed to aport the most clear feedback in the case they are doing nothing bcs they don't understand something to make this petition arrive to a good port and we can close this problem once for all since after all we can't read devs minds, at least not me (yet), and as i always say a good answer from they part will save months of disapoinment and frustations against them specially in cases like this one for such thing that can be solved so easily.
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    Last edited by shao32; 10-25-2020 at 11:01 AM.

  2. #542
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    Hey all, you should avoid creating fights and dramas here if you want the thread to survive. Also, please don't dismiss the opinion of players who want the old sounds back, even if you like the new ones. We're complaining for a reason, and while debating in a constructive manner is fine, stuff like "stop complaining it's been a year" achieves litterally nothing outside of creating more frustration.
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  3. #543
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeido View Post
    Also, please don't dismiss the opinion of players who want the old sounds back, even if you like the new ones.
    Personally I don't care either way about the sounds, but to say "please don't dismiss the opinion of players who want the old sounds back, even if you like the new ones." yet the people who do want the old sfx back have quite often ripped through the opinion of those that have an opinion different to this echo chamber of a thread. Some of the discussions I've read have been less than civil, and most of this I have seen from the side that want the old sfx back, as if they have been personally offended that someone prefers the new sounds.

    So I think that it should extend to both sides tbh, not just those that prefer the new sfx. Do realise this is a FORUM, a place where discussions take place, so you can't have a discussion without an opposing side.
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    Last edited by aodhan_ofinnegain; 11-14-2020 at 02:48 AM.

  4. #544
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    Fair points on both sides. It can be challenging with this topic, and any topic that has created levels of attachment, to debate things respectfully. There's such passion either way. Perhaps a solution is to allow players to toggle which GNB sound they want to hear at this point?
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  5. #545
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    Of course it's a forum, intended for discussion. The discussions tend to be pretty civil unless someone shows up in this thread with the express intent of being an ass. Kind of hard to be polite with someone when all they do is post a bunch of insults and tell us to give up. So uh, can't expect me to be too nice when they act like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Of course it's a forum, intended for discussion. The discussions tend to be pretty civil unless someone shows up in this thread with the express intent of being an ass. Kind of hard to be polite with someone when all they do is post a bunch of insults and tell us to give up. So uh, can't expect me to be too nice when they act like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    sounds good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Of course it's a forum, intended for discussion. The discussions tend to be pretty civil unless someone shows up in this thread with the express intent of being an ass. Kind of hard to be polite with someone when all they do is post a bunch of insults and tell us to give up. So uh, can't expect me to be too nice when they act like that. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    "I disagree with you."

    It's pretty easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    "I disagree with you."

    It's pretty easy.
    Okay. I disagree with you.
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  9. #549
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    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    Personally I don't care either way about the sounds, but to say "please don't dismiss the opinion of players who want the old sounds back, even if you like the new ones." yet the people who do want the old sfx back have quite often ripped through the opinion of those that have an opinion different to this echo chamber of a thread. Some of the discussions I've read have been less than civil, and most of this I have seen from the side that want the old sfx back, as if they have been personally offended that someone prefers the new sounds.

    So I think that it should extend to both sides tbh, not just those that prefer the new sfx. Do realise this is a FORUM, a place where discussions take place, so you can't have a discussion without an opposing side.
    I totally agree that an opposing side is perfectly fine, but from what I've seen after reading the entirety of this thread, most of the time said opposing side was just plain rude. You can't then expect people to be nice to them and want to have an actual discussion with them if all they do is call them names, tell them to give up, or that voicing our disappointment is useless. I'm all for listening to their opinion, but if they instantly dismiss mine, why would I even bother with theirs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeido View Post
    I totally agree that an opposing side is perfectly fine, but from what I've seen after reading the entirety of this thread, most of the time said opposing side was just plain rude. You can't then expect people to be nice to them and want to have an actual discussion with them if all they do is call them names, tell them to give up, or that voicing our disappointment is useless. I'm all for listening to their opinion, but if they instantly dismiss mine, why would I even bother with theirs?
    If you had read the entirety of the thread, then you'd have realized that it isn't only opposition that brings out the vitriol, but neutrality.

    It is ultimately a thread of "I liked this, I want it back". That's fine. However, it unfortunately is easily counterbalanced by "I do not." These are subjective stances, based on individual preference and want.

    And let us not pretend the OG sounders are not at fault. Their initial tone and lampooning and insistence on degraded sound quality just because they disagree with it sets the tone.

    There also comes a time when you just have to let it die. The average fruit fly lifespan is twice as long as these sound effects existed in the live game. The odds of them returning those sound effects to the baseline combo are effectively zero at this point.

    Let it go. Pump up your music, turn down your sound effects, and get on with it.
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