Pronouns?

[reiichi]

Sorry, I read it with my own bias. They meant going forward to remove gendered language to make it easier to implement. Rather than cultural "progress". Still same reply though, I also would rather keep my pronouns. More options is one thing sure, but I'd be wholly against the potential removal just to make it easier on the devs, and pander to a minority.

Would it really be considered removal had they never included it from the beginning? Legit question. If all the voiced cutscenes had only used first/second person pronouns for the player character because they'd been written that way, would you feel as strongly?

so aside from me fucking up what "third person means" (I admit that's on me, but you get what I was trying to say regardless) there's one choice quote I want to pick out since I'm getting tired of this thread



So. Like. What's you being cisgendered got to do with... anything, really? I'm cisgendered too, but I'm also not Khenda. I'm a 21 y/o white male. I certainly don't have cat ears, pink-turned-white hair and am, last time I checked, not a woman. I'm playing a character, not me. I'm not Khenda, Khenda isn't me. I recognise that there are people who would like to be their characters, but the game doesn't cater to you because you are cis. You superimpose being cis onto the game, in the same way people pushing for more forms of self-identification are pushing their identity onto the game.

You don't have to be you in-game. I'd like the identity of the character I've *created* to be respected, though.

Welcome to being exhausted on the internet! I'm not sure why I stuck around either to be honest. I originally just wanted to address that the game being more inclusive is by no means a technical/dev limitation, but here I am.

But dude (because that's gender neutral where I'm from), the game has no obligation to refer to your character with a gender at all. That's been the whole point. The entire game's also been centered on assuming that sex=gender because that's the assumed norm for everyone when it isn't for all of them. I brought it up because some trans and NB inclusive options has never been a factor in my life, whether online or offline. I don't have to deal with being misgendered intentionally or not. The game absolutely caters to the expected societal standard that people are cis. It's a generally fair assumption to make too, because that is a majority. But that doesn't mean we should just ignore or exclude options for minorities who these options could really matter to.

While I personally chose to play a male character, the game also assumes I want masculine third person pronouns, which for me, is fine. If the game gave players the option to pick them, that'd be great, but ultimately, wouldn't change my gameplay.

It's great that you're a guy playing a catgirl. I started ARR as a catboy and I don't identify with my character either. Characters are just avatars, after all. I'm not sure how a script requiring third person pronouns is deemed more respectful to the character than a script that was more neutral, offered neutral options, or avoided the issue altogether. In any case, it's not like I expect SE to bend to my standards or make any changes. I simply proposed a few ways this thread could have been avoided.