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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    This isn't a matter of intellect. It's a matter of opinion and preference.
    It's a matter of whining. A shining example of naivete.

    This is a server merge. No matter how it is carried out, someone somewhere will be complaining. There is no perfect way to do it. There are only ways that will least effect 'you' personally.

    They chose to go with a fair system - one that effects every subscribed player. It's a matter of coordination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    It's a matter of whining. A shining example of naivete.

    This is a server merge. No matter how it is carried out, someone somewhere will be complaining. There is no perfect way to do it. There are only ways that will least effect 'you' personally.

    They chose to go with a fair system - one that effects every subscribed player equally. It's a matter of coordination.
    There's a REGULAR and PERFECTLY REASONABLE way to do it, and I simply would like to know [SIZE="7"]->WHY<-[/SIZE] they have chosen to do it in an uncommon execution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    There's a REGULAR and PERFECTLY REASONABLE way to do it, and I simply would like to know [SIZE="7"]->WHY<-[/SIZE] they have chosen to do it in an uncommon execution.
    Oh, there is a Regular and Perfectly Reasonable way?

    I suppose you're referring to combining lower populated servers and keeping high populated servers as is? So half the community remains unaffected while the rest are forced together? Oh, but you allow people the freedom of choice to go where they want as well? This freedom comes with the cost of people losing contact with some friends potentially. No way around that one I'm afraid.

    What about their last suggestion and/or plan to close down low populated servers and force people in them to pick from the highly populated ones. Very little choice in that, and again it does not effect some players while it drastically effects others. Also much more limited in space so the closing servers would have to be spread thin across existent large ones.

    They had other plans. They were vocal about it. Since then there has been constant discussion about people complaining and suggesting other methods. No matter what people are unhappy.

    So SE basically says: "Everyone's moving, and to brand new, empty servers. Coordinate yourselves and do it the way that will best make you happy. You have control."

    Eh, that's enough from me. I don't expect to convince anyone to grow up on these forums. Just wait for the translation of Yoshi-P's post - you were asking for an explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    It's a matter of whining. A shining example of naivete.

    This is a server merge. No matter how it is carried out, someone somewhere will be complaining. There is no perfect way to do it. There are only ways that will least effect 'you' personally.

    They chose to go with a fair system - one that effects every subscribed player. It's a matter of coordination.
    It's not a fair system at all. Communities are being broken down in the progress. There are far less invasive ways to do this like for example merging entire servers.

    Tell me why accoording to you the procedure they're suggesting is good. What benefits are being provided by that system over all the other ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KumaAkuma View Post
    It's not a fair system at all. Communities are being broken down in the progress. There are far less invasive ways to do this like for example merging entire servers.

    Tell me why accoording to you the procedure they're suggesting is good. What benefits are being provided by that system over all the other ones.
    only if you tell me what prevents everyone on the same server from just choosing the same server to go to so that they all end up together anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    only if you tell me what prevents everyone on the same server from just choosing the same server to go to so that they all end up together anyway
    Sine it's first come first serve the servers have a decent probability of filling and those who are on break or don't have the current means to play are left to chance....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arksniper View Post
    Sine it's first come first serve the servers have a decent probability of filling and those who are on break or don't have the current means to play are left to chance....
    People not currently playing and paying subscription are clearly not a priority. I have friends in this category too. I will do my best to reach them and make sure they are aware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    only if you tell me what prevents everyone on the same server from just choosing the same server to go to so that they all end up together anyway
    Exactly. Nor does it solve the issue for the few international players that want to play with more people from their country. Why not just stand in town and shout which server you would like everyone to move too. This way at least gives everyone time to get a game plan together and get the most out of it as opposed to just slapping 2 large groups of strangers together and hoping for the best. It also seems like this way will cut down on the number of people that have to change their names because they are being forced into a server where that name was already taken. The same goes for Linkshell names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    only if you tell me what prevents everyone on the same server from just choosing the same server to go to so that they all end up together anyway
    Communication. There is no way to pull this off. The differences in languages, the "sleepers" who are away or don't want to pay right now. Not to mention the size will probably not even be still available if by some miracle it does get set up eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KumaAkuma View Post
    It's not a fair system at all. Communities are being broken down in the progress. There are far less invasive ways to do this like for example merging entire servers.

    Tell me why accoording to you the procedure they're suggesting is good. What benefits are being provided by that system over all the other ones.
    It is many things. Unfair isn't one of them. It effects every subscriber the same way. Many other suggested procedures however cannot make the same claim.

    The pros of this procedure is that it is fair, and that it gives the community full control. Personally, I would have preferred the old procedure they announced where high populated serves would stay as is while lower ones would merge unto them. See, this wouldn't effect me much at all and would keep my community on Lindblum intact whilst introducing new names as well. How awesome! However, I am not so selfish as to push a procedure that benefits me best as the best procedure universally.

    It is a server merge - a necessary evil. With this procedure we as a community have full control. Things will change for everyone. We chose who to go with. Can we honestly say that all of our acquaintances on our servers and indispensable friends? Really?

    It's an MMO. We'll move to a new server, meet new people (hell active forum-goers already have cross-server relationships) and make new friends. Seriously it's not difficult. We've all been losing tons of friends due to them leaving the game since it's launch already. Gradually, but surely. Then we make new ones. This ain't nothing new. People who enjoy eachother's company exceptionally (like a pseudo-FFXIV family) will already chose to stick together.
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