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    Agner's Avatar
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    Rivane Azhcrove
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
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    To me I feel like if we're to compare (much like you said, we won't get into "I want what [x] tank has!", but just for this sake) the burst spam abilities for DRK/WAR/PLD (BS, FC, HS), I'd rank them like WAR > DRK => PLD. Sound design does a lot for me and I just feel like Bloodspiller has always been a bit on the middling side of things in that regard. If you were to compare a move like BS to how our good ol' Power Slash sounded in terms of sound effect, I'd honestly put Power Slash over it, which is a bit of a problem to me. Sure, we didn't use it all that much, but achieving use of it was much faster than it ever was for BS.

    I had made a joke about Bloodspiller being "dark arts plunge" back when the Stormblood job actions trailer was shown (and then they actually put in dark arts plunge, eventually... lol.), and I still say this somewhat jokingly, but maybe it would be beneficial to swap the animation to something with less buildup and more pure smackdown? Similar to plunge, except you obviously flip different/smack down much harder. Hey, if we want to go further and add uniqueness to it, maybe we could even have it act as a gap closer. Admittedly, that might be a little excessive with 2 plunge stacks in place, though. That said, Bloodspiller and Plunge do feel like two abilities in the DRK toolkit that weave together very well—like you've gone berserk and you're just completely slamming down on your opponent at this point with all of your might, weight, and magic.

    Having said all of this, I still want Delirium completely out of the game, or as WhyAmIHere said, yet another expansion-tradition of redesigning the ability completely. Inner Release as it is, is fine on WAR to me, Requiescat is fine on PLD for working a little differently (MP requirement, finisher move is an entirely different blast of magic), but for DRK it's just excessively weird with no unique factor of its own past a measly 200 MP per hit. To reference another post (Lyth's), I'd prefer we have specific buttons for burst that don't just come down to copying GNB's continuation. I'm fine with Bloodspiller's existence as a gauge spender, but not in this way. If they want us to use it continuously, they should add something to it that makes us look forward to actually using it.

    The other thing that irks me about Delirium is just the namesake. Back in HW as an int-reducing combo finisher it made a degree of sense, but in my field of study I think of it more like agitation/restlessness, hallucinations, slowed/heavier movement, that sort of thing. If anything, that sounds like a buff we should put up as a prerequisite for summoning Living Shadow and turning delusions into a reality through dark arts than it does "I'm gonna become an actual acrobat and pull off a million front flips", though maybe they took the "agitation" part a little too much into account.

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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Zalera
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Agner View Post
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    Having said all of this, I still want Delirium completely out of the game, or as WhyAmIHere said, yet another expansion-tradition of redesigning the ability completely.

    The other thing that irks me about Delirium is just the namesake. Back in HW as an int-reducing combo finisher it made a degree of sense, but in my field of study I think of it more like agitation/restlessness, hallucinations, slowed/heavier movement, that sort of thing. If anything, that sounds like a buff we should put up as a prerequisite for summoning Living Shadow and turning delusions into a reality through dark arts than it does "I'm gonna become an actual acrobat and pull off a million front flips", though maybe they took the "agitation" part a little too much into account.

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    Can't agree more, I feel like delirium is just the cursed ability that gets changed entirely every expansion myself lol. And I agree I dont mind bloodspiller in small doses, but spamming it is increadibly terrible visually and audibly, wish there was a finisher for the burst at the least.
    I agree delirium makes more sense as the ability that could summon fray while living shadow could be changed to be as enkindle, or a big nuke in that phase.

    Edit: I dont mind blood weapon existing, but its hardly that great when comparing it to the speed increase it had. I keep thinking about atonement, how it sort of works, and i almost wonder if giving a stack of Dark Arts after a couple successful Soul Eater combo's, while decoupling it from the TBN pop would ruin DRK game play or not.Comparing the damage of Atonement to BS might be the simple way of looking at it, but to me it actually feels closer to a stack of DA - Free damage with mp gain, vs free damage proc that prevents massive mp use. Might be super unpopular, but it would let you use TBN more often without worrying about it getting popped. Problem I guess could be that MP management would be even easier.
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