SCH needs to be significantly buffed

[glamazon]

If we had to manage hate it would force healers in this game to smashed their heals better.

[Deceptus]

Oh god, another one of these "SCH isn't the most absurdly OP healer in the game anymore, clearly this is a major bug and must be fixed" threads.

Other healers are actually useful now too. Get used to it.

Doesn't change the fact that the fairy AI is still garbage and ghosting still exists.

[Veis_Alveare]

Doesn't change the fact that the fairy AI is still garbage and ghosting still exists.

Yeah.

I admit SCH is my least played healer, largely because SCH is what my cohealer loves and so I basically don't touch it at the high end, but even I've seen the weird failures in pet AI in simple things like 24m raids.

I remember losing a WD just in the last few days during PB which then forced me to Succor because I'd already used ET healing a fun, unmitigated tankbuster that I hadn't saved Excog for. In something like a 24m that's easy enough to cover for but I can't imagine just suddenly not getting important heals in savage.

Like if my star just randomly disappeared on AST I'd probably not still be playing the job, and it's been my main for a bit now.

[KDSilver]

Oh god, another one of these "SCH isn't the most absurdly OP healer in the game anymore, clearly this is a major bug and must be fixed" threads.

Other healers are actually useful now too. Get used to it.

OP took the problem the wrong way.
No healer have ever been totally useless.

Scholar used to be nearly perfect and there were balancing issue for sure, but let's not exagerate on the reality please, especially because that's not what's asked here.

[Tridus]

Actually, I don't think anyone who really plays SCH cares that its the lowest healer at the moment, I know I certainly don't. We mostly care about the clunkiness that is still persisting even know. Clunkiness that has been there for a while, it just gets new forms every expansion. Most of us are actually quite happy that the other healers are "finally" better.

OP seems to.

I don't think you'll find any opposition to fixing clunkiness and making the fairy less fiddly to do what you want, but this "SCH needs big buffs!" stuff comes up every time SCH isn't head and shoulders the best healer in the game. After a few years, it's gotten pretty tedious.

[WaxSw]

Sch is a bit behind in terms of rdps and hps compared to the other two, that's true but its not unplayable, you can clear and pull your weight in any kind of content from the most casual to the hardest ultimate and while a very slight buff would be apreciated there are far more important problems with the job rn than its numbers

[Ftail]

OP seems to.

I don't think you'll find any opposition to fixing clunkiness and making the fairy less fiddly to do what you want, but this "SCH needs big buffs!" stuff comes up every time SCH isn't head and shoulders the best healer in the game. After a few years, it's gotten pretty tedious.

I honestly do not know where you are seeing people up in arms about buffing SCH through the roof. OP doesn’t even have a single upvote, and the majority of SCH threads are about wanting a rework.

[Veis_Alveare]

I honestly do not know where you are seeing people up in arms about buffing SCH through the roof. OP doesn’t even have a single upvote, and the majority of SCH threads are about wanting a rework.

It might not be the overwhelming flavor of the month right now but SCH mains do have a history of throwing fits whenever they're nerfed in any way at all.

They've been spoiled by being the guaranteed pick for so long - any real group would have a SCH and an AST/WHM.

I say this as an AST/WHM for like five years now. Mine is the healer role to flex, my SCH has never had to not SCH to be meta.

[AnotherPerson]

I can agree with you there are less people playing SCH, but that's because SCH is kind of a mess right now. It's not so bad when you're in a coordinated environment, but in Duty Finder it's more easier to notice the issues. There's a lot of problems with the current SCH, but the main ones imo is how its kit functions as a whole. Besides the faerie not firing the oGCD abilities off when you command them and ghosting, SCH also runs into the issue where faerie skills used between 2-3 second transitions of Seraph and Dissipation can be lost. Again, SCH heals fine in ideal scenarios since they go into a nice healing rotation and have enough healing output to move along to the next part of the fight, but due to the way its kit works, it does not do well when people start taking hits left and right and eat tons of mechanics depending on where you are at in the healing rotation. SCH does well to adjust minor skirmishes due to having a lot of oGCD abilties to sustain HP at a certain level, but it also suffers from having its maximum healing output capped at every point in its healing kit because all of the SCH's capstone skills would prevent the simultaneous use of their skills, so when incoming damage is much greater than what SCH is required to heal, it cannot save the team unlike their counterparts White Mage and Astrologian, who can throw all their oGCD healing tools if required (with small animation lock) to survive. Granted, running into these situations generally mean the party itself has problems, but it also highlights how problematic SCH can be under non-ideal situations, especially when there's skills ghosting and skills that get lost if used between a transition in Seraph and Dissipation (which acts as another small temporary lock). There's definitely a lot more issues with SCH's toolkit and how the capstone skills interact as a whole, but I feel this is the main problem for SCH feeling a lot 'weaker' than other healer roles (aside from the lack of raw GCD healing).

In short:
1. Capstone skills work against each other by preventing the simultaneous use of skills, limiting total healing output at any given moment.
2. Dissipation locks away all faerie skills, making it not so much of a skill you can use on cooldown for aetherflow when the situation doesn't allow for it beyond level 70, causing SCH to lose aetherflow during an encounter. This is partly due to increased HP values lowering the effectiveness of healer potencies as a whole.
3. Faerie can ghost skills / delay them. Using Dissipation or Seraph/Seraph ending also causes skills to be lost, creating periods where SCH cannot weave Faerie oGCD healing skills with capstone skills.

[Ftail]

It might not be the overwhelming flavor of the month right now but SCH mains do have a history of throwing fits whenever they're nerfed in any way at all.

They've been spoiled by being the guaranteed pick for so long - any real group would have a SCH and an AST/WHM.

I say this as an AST/WHM for like five years now. Mine is the healer role to flex, my SCH has never had to not SCH to be meta.

If you think the once in a blue moon SCH that's crying about serious buffs is "throwing fits". You should really check what the white mages have posted over the past several years.