SCH needs to be significantly buffed

[IBenjieI]

I mained SCH during SB and left the class for ShB in favour of SAM. I recently started levelling it again.

In larger and later content, do I feel SCH's heals are underpowered compared to say, WHM? Sure. But SCH's shield like no other healer. Having Adlo and Succor crit will guarantee at least a Galvanize with another shield on top of your already decent shield.

I don't feel I can heal check as well as a WHM or AST, but I feel like I'm helping at the very least. Lustrate is helpful, but don't forget we also have Excog for when Tanks take the big hitters. The fact we have a few tools to keep Aetherflow up, we do alright. Using Dissipation during downtime or when I start to panic heal and keep Aetherflow on cooldown, I manage well enough. I'm not the best healer in the game, but my shields have taken someone out of trouble more than once. But, looking at all the good points above, I can now improve haha

[Limonia]

I don't play SCH very often lately because of how buggy the pet. The ghosting is so annoying that it takes the last fun away.

Whenever I do play it though, I feel there's not enough to heal to warrant all the oGCDs SCH has. Most times it's enough to use Whispering Dawn and Fey Blessing. Often, using Recitation + Excogitation/Indomitability or Seraph would be overheal anyway. Only with a learning or struggling group do you have to use your whole kit, and for that I never found it lacking ever since SCH got so many healing tools. It was harder to AoE heal in ARR, but ever since HW it's not really a problem anymore. So... no idea why you have trouble with healing as SCH. I've seen as many SCH as WHM and AST that "snipe" heals. I mean theoretically you can use Indomitability for every raid-wide AoE plus one of your faerie skills. And if you need even more healing you can add Emergency Tactics + Succor. You may need it only rarely, but it's not that it's not there if you do need it.

[Risvertasashi]

I don't play SCH very often lately because of how buggy the pet. The ghosting is so annoying that it takes the last fun away.

Not to downplay the issue, but one of the "interesting" parts of playing summoner is that you have to vary your opener depending on if your pet ghosts or not.

And I'm not talking about it not happening due to too much button mashing. You can have a clear window to hit it, do so, push nothing else until the GCD is ready, and sometimes it just doesn't happen.

But, one thing that can help a bit as SCH - manually place the fairy. It gets a lot more reliable if it's not moving.

[Deceptus]

Instead of making Selene a carbon copy of Eos they should have doubled down on the fairy usage. Any number of things could have been done.

Make Eos the ST healing fairy and Selene the AOE fairy.

Make Dissipation swap fairies with zero cast time and give a small healing boost.

Remove Selene's clunky silence and give some other type of buff.

Anything other than just essentially removing Selene.

I mained SCH during SB and left the class for ShB in favour of SAM. I recently started levelling it again.

In larger and later content, do I feel SCH's heals are underpowered compared to say, WHM? Sure. But SCH's shield like no other healer. Having Adlo and Succor crit will guarantee at least a Galvanize with another shield on top of your already decent shield.

The problem is that a normal Adlo shield is usually 10% or less of a tanks total HP due to modifier nerfs in ShB. Succor is even less.

[Absurdity]

The problem is that a normal Adlo shield is usually 10% or less of a tanks total HP due to modifier nerfs in ShB. Succor is even less.

There's also the question of why you would ever use Recitation on an Adlo when you could instead get a guaranteed crit Excog for 0 Aetherflow cost?

But SCH's shield like no other healer. Having Adlo and Succor crit will guarantee at least a Galvanize with another shield on top of your already decent shield.

In current fights Adlo basically only sees two uses, a crit Adlo spread pre-pull for which you don't need to use Recitation and maybe an Adlo spread during phase changes where you can't attack anything.

One of Adlo's most powerful uses got deleted by the Deployment Tactics nerf and your shields are so weak that they barely justify their own cast time.

I'd rather use the Recitation on a crit Indom for group healing than try to fiddle around with an Adlo deploy and for Shields you always got Seraph which costs you only a weave slot.




If we're talking about dungeons then you just Adlo the tank between pulls and alternate between Seraph for one pack of mobs ,while you build up fairy gauge, and Fey Union for the next pack. Ideally you can dissipate your fairy right before the last mob dies so you start the next fight with 3 Aetherflow and your fairy back up.

[Semirhage]

Clunk needs addressing? Absolutely. Rework to all three healers to make them fun? I'm down.

Significantly buffing just Scholar? Your favorite job isn't the overpowered mandatory raid pick it's been for six years. Tragedy. My heart weeps for the poor Scholars who aren't head and shoulders above everyone else anymore.

[Liam_Harper]

Secondly, while technically we can do as much healing as a WHM, playing against them in lower end content is in my experience a lot waste of time because they can just snipe so well.

Sniping has nothing to do with class balance. It's simply your co-healer playing badly. Playing against a healbot is indeed a waste of potential, yes. It's actually worse for AST since a lot of their healing is gradual HoT and wait time for Star. They certainly don't need buffs because of it though, the healbots just need to stop heal spamming when it isn't necessary.

SCH's issues are pet ghosting, the way it functions and how it's tied to your toolkit and how high the dps penalty is to weave on a class with a lot of oGcD's.

[Tridus]

Oh god, another one of these "SCH isn't the most absurdly OP healer in the game anymore, clearly this is a major bug and must be fixed" threads.

Other healers are actually useful now too. Get used to it.

[Eloah]

Oh god, another one of these "SCH isn't the most absurdly OP healer in the game anymore, clearly this is a major bug and must be fixed" threads.

Other healers are actually useful now too. Get used to it.

Actually, I don't think anyone who really plays SCH cares that its the lowest healer at the moment, I know I certainly don't. We mostly care about the clunkiness that is still persisting even know. Clunkiness that has been there for a while, it just gets new forms every expansion. Most of us are actually quite happy that the other healers are "finally" better.

[glamazon]

This is a great idea. The fairy spells we put on hot bars could change depending on which fairy we use. If they actually varied how encounters happen we could even have a fairy that used the sleep spells we never use or give it a stun spell.