Player Purchase Priorty

[Greyhawk]

Players in other MMOs with housing aren't forced into choose one or the other.

Why are we?

Well, one thing is this isn't other MMOs, FFXIV stands on its own two feet. It's handled differently and we really may have a cultural difference of opinion when it comes to the management of this game.

Another thing is SE has always had their stance on housing as this - they want it to not be available to every player because it's considered an elite commodity.

Not defending them on this, because I think housing should be available to everyone in an MMO that has it, but they haven't ever changed their stance on it and I don't think they will in the near future. It is a funky, broken system. People with multiple plots aren't doing us any favors in that aspect either, and SE hasn't fixed that yet to date as well. That leads us to believe nothing really will change on this, so it's unfortunately 'eat or be eaten'.

[Jojoya]

Another thing is SE has always had their stance on housing as this - they want it to not be available to every player because it's considered an elite commodity.

Still waiting for a link to an official source on this idea that players keep spreading but no one seems to be able to back up.

[Calixis]

Still waiting for a link to an official source on this idea that players keep spreading but no one seems to be able to back up.

Most I've been able to see akin to that is SE originally planning for Housing to be an FC only thing and then backpeddling.

What's more likely is that SE do want to fix this. Having threads upon threads of complaints, coupled with loud social media cries, is definitely not somebody a PR manager wants to be seeing. The problem however is probably their horribly outdated code which we know causes all sorts of problems. But they've said this last wave was just a put-on whilst they move housing over to dedicated servers, which does more than imply they're going to be taking measures to help rectify this. I mean LotRO has an almost identical housing system to FFXIV in every way and even at it's peak never really struggled with opening up new wards (and continues to do so).

Actually now that I think about how similar LotRO's housing is I'm getting an awkward feeling we might see Premium Wards for real-world £££ some time in the future.

[ItMe]

Actually now that I think about how similar LotRO's housing is I'm getting an awkward feeling we might see Premium Wards for real-world £££ some time in the future.

God I hope not...

[Penthea]

Not defending them on this, because I think housing should be available to everyone in an MMO that has it, but they haven't ever changed their stance on it

Uhh...housing was only for fcs at first, and the prices have been cut down to be far more affordable. They certainly have changed their stance on who can get a house.

What they haven't changed their stance on is the ward system being the only way to access housing.

Another thing is SE has always had their stance on housing as this - they want it to not be available to every player because it's considered an elite commodity.

Still waiting for a link to an official source on this idea that players keep spreading but no one seems to be able to back up.

Yeap, so am I.

[Divinemights]

If you haven’t notice, entire “housing crisis” is just active NA minority making loud noise on the forum
This is not a Worldwide problem

[ItMe]

One thing to take into consideration is that NA's smaller servers are still comprable to the largest Japanese one (Tonberry).

[ItMe]

In size I mean.
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[Greyhawk]

Uhh...housing was only for fcs at first, and the prices have been cut down to be far more affordable. They certainly have changed their stance on who can get a house.

What they haven't changed their stance on is the ward system being the only way to access housing.





Yeap, so am I.

FFS do the math, you don't even need a link to an article to figure this out.

There are 68 servers for the entire game.
Four housing zones with 24 wards = 96 wards, * 60 plots per ward = 5,760.
5,760 housing plots * 68 servers = 391,680.
There are over 20 MILLION player accounts in FFXIV. 20,000,000.

4 zones * 24 wards * 60 plots * 68 servers = 391,680. Again, look at that number vs. player population.

That's 1.96% of the population with access to housing plots. This does not include apartments.

If you want that figure, I'll do the math for you on it so you can continue being lazy in figuring out that 1.96% of the game population world-wide has access to housing plots. If that isn't taking a privileged stance on housing, I don't know what else to do to convince you.

They have let the problem swelter to an unmanageable number of players out of housing, and have let people purchase multiple *MULTIPLE* housing plots for themselves. They continue to own these plots of land with no recourse of action taken against them.

I will also go and try to find the article I had read years ago where SE said it was a privilege to own a home in this game. However, I think the math does the talking related to duration of how long this has been going on.

*EDITED* my server count was off, added what I missed. It still sucks regardless for the players.

[Jojoya]

If you haven’t notice, entire “housing crisis” is just active NA minority making loud noise on the forum
This is not a Worldwide problem

And you come to this conclusion based on your personal visits to what worlds since the new wards were added?

Here's a quick trip I'm making to Goblet on all the JP and EU worlds tonight since Goblet is the district players go to when they can't get a house elsewhere.

Anima - none
Asura - none
Belias - none
Chocobo - none
Hades - none
Ixion - one small (hasn't devalued yet)
Mandragora - none
Masamune - one small (devalued once)
Pandaemonium - none
Shinryu - one small (hasn't devalued yet)
Titan - one small (hasn't devalued yet)

Alexander - one small (devalued once)
Bahamut - none
Durandal - none
Fenrir - none
Ifrit - none
Ridill - none
Tiamat - over 100 smalls
Ultima - none
Valefor - none
Yojimbo - none
Zeromus - one small (hasn't devalued yet)

Aegis - over 100 smalls
Atomos - 81 smalls
Carbuncle - none
Garuda - none
Gungnir - none
Kujata - 30 smalls
Ramuh - 85 smalls
Tonberry - none
Typhon - 73 smalls
Unicorn - one small (devalued once)

Lich - one small (hasn't devalued yet)
Odin - one small (hasn't devalued yet)
Phoenix - none
Shiva - none
Twintania - over 100 smalls
Zodiark - one small (hasn't devalued yet)

Cerberus - none
Louisoix - one medium (good luck!) and 67 smalls
Moogle - none
Omega - none
Ragnarok - none
Spriggan - one medium (good luck!) and over 100 smalls

So that's 26 out of 32 JP worlds and 9 out of 12 EU worlds that don't have houses available for their players ready to buy right now. The only way for players on those worlds to get a house is to pay US$18 (or whatever they're charged in their local currency) to pay for a world transfer to one of the few worlds with houses available.

You don't think that's a problem?

There are 44 servers for the entire game.

You mean there are 68 servers for the entire game (32 JP, 24 NA, 12 EU). That's 391,680 houses total.

The game doesn't have 20 million active players. That's accounts registered since the game was launched, most of which aren't active. We know that the game has over 1 million active players (was announced at one of the recent live letters), though how much over that number isn't clearly known (has been estimated at 1.2-1.5 million).

Even if only half the active players want to own a house, we're still short several hundred thousand.

However, I think the math does the talking related to duration of how long this has been going on.

Your math doesn't do anything when it's based on a bunch of false assumptions and doesn't account for other relevant information like servers do cost money to maintain so SE doesn't want to have servers running that are effectively unused.