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    cactuarzzzz's Avatar
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    Zzz' Zzz
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ard_and_world/
    The irony... The man who confessed how he love WoW and WoWficationed XIV didn't even try to do the same thing that make WoW good.












    Now, while there's the idea that "distinct ways of performing core tank functions" is needed
    there is still no explanation why we must choose the barrier over life drain.
    To be a life drain tank you only need to make WAR give up trying to be one
    But to be a barrier tank you would need other tank to change as well. Ever wonder about the success rate?

    Like a tribe who got driven from homeland > gave up on it and now trying to heading to an uncharted land with nothing but ideal and hope the god would make the place that they choose prosper and make it only belong to them. No real plan nor being realistic at all.


    I should at least help with how to come up with the barrier knight tho
    but.... the day that dark knight is nothing but a person in black armor carrying a greatsword would be the day I permanently leave XIV.
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    Last edited by cactuarzzzz; 10-24-2020 at 02:07 AM.

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    ADVSS's Avatar
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    Advent Shadowsoul
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ard_and_world/
    The irony... The man who confessed how he love WoW and WoWficationed XIV refused to do what make WoW good.












    While there's the idea that "distinct ways of performing core tank functions" is needed
    there is still no explanation why we must choose the barrier over life drain.
    To be a life drain tank you only need to make WAR give up trying to be one
    But to be a barrier tank you would need other tank to change as well. Ever wonder about the success rate?

    Like a tribe who got driven from homeland > gave up on it and now trying to heading to an uncharted land with nothing but ideal and hope the god would make the place that they choose prosper and only belong to them. No real plan nor being realistic at all.


    I should at least help with how to come up with the barrier knight tho
    but.... the day that dark knight is nothing but a person in black armor carrying a greatsword would be the day I permanently leave XIV.
    DRK out the gate in HW was not a tradition DRK, to begin with. It barely resembled one at all. I have to agree someone had posted it was more of a Mystic Knight, than an actual antipaladin due to its focus on magic barrier defense rather than stat/health drain/debuffing. As a tank, the sacrifice life for damage was not going to work, so understandable they would have to cut some of its identity out of the gate. To most of us, that was a logical and acceptable thing we could deal without, for the sake of functionality alone as a tank.

    The other problem, though was that its design was partially something different, partially beholden to the 2 tanks before it, and it was moreso just a hybrid of paladin and warrior, that wasnt supposed to step on either's toes, just like AST was literally a hybrid of sch and whm and was never designed to step on eithers toes.

    As was said earlier, their design philosophy is basically "its a tank so it needs this, cause the other tanks have this and it cannot be a tank unless it has these things"

    The healers are having a rough time too, because they did this exact same philosophy to them.

    Instead of focusing on "how do we get it to do this or comparable in its own way"
    They simply went with "These things work and make the role work, so it must have these abilities like the others"

    I would argue that they did do this in HW but then they got those skills out of the box immediately, so theres all the cool downs, and the tank invuln. Well lets just slap some stuff together to make it look cool now and call it a day.
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 10-24-2020 at 02:12 AM.