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    Anyone else feel like SE hit peak "cutscene power loss" in Bozja?

    At this point, it's a trope in this game that in a cutscene the WoL loses their power. ESPECIALLY for healers, who it took until Stormblood to even be acknowledged as existing by the MSQ. But this was just absurd.

    Okay, Misija does another "do anything and I'll kill my hostage" move that we've seen a million times and is not very threatening to someone that can heal/shield/raise at will, but sure. At least she's in a position to do it...

    Until she kicks Mikoto across the room. Now we're doing what she says because she's threatening someone who is six feet away from her, and well outside of range of the weapon she's threatening with.... to someone who can cast RESCUE.

    Then we go along with all this stuff, things happen, and it ends when someone finally shows up and just bleeping shoots her (which is super effective). Well great, why didn't we do that five minutes ago? This could have been ended before it started if my suddenly "I only know how to club things with this staff" WHM WoL remembered she can cast Rescue, pulled Mikoto over behind her, and then the Blades blasted Misija to smithereens.

    I mean, I get they want to have some drama here, but "lol you have to stand there doing nothing when you could trivially solve this with the powers you had before this cutscene" is just lazy writing and it didn't land for me at all. They did it way better in the ShB MSQ, where it never felt like you were powerless because "cutscene".


    Castrum itself is pretty cool, though it definitely benefits from a couple of leaders that know what's going on.
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    Well, again, I spent upwards of 12 hours in Bozja and didn't get a single chance at a solo fight after around 10 queue attempts.

    Something really ought to change sooner then later, and I'd prefer they just make it so that the queue opens up again for all of the remaining qualifiers whenever someone dies.

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    I'd go complain about the story elements on the lore forum instead. Also, spoilers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
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    While I usually don't mind the WoL beeing a bit "weak" I have to agree to you this time.
    (using spoiler tags just in case)

    I was literally screaming at my screen "YOU ARE A MONK! USE SHOULDER TACKLE DAMN IT! THERE IS NO WAY SHE IS FAST ENOUGH TO DO SOMETHING!"


    Though I was more mad at the second part of that cutscene where I was like, really we have trouble blocking this? How many Primals/Ascians did we kill by now? We even merged with another WoL and we still can't easily handle that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Anyone else feel like SE hit peak "cutscene power loss" in Bozja?
    Yeah and it honestly took me out of the story quite a bit. These scenes are even more funny (in a sad way) if you are a machinist.

    All they had to change was to keep Mikoto within her range or to have the room full of snipers that are ready to take us out if we dont help. Which of course would make the ending a bit different since we would be more in danger..but again just keep the sword at Mikotos throat..problem solved.

    We are not alone, all the others (beside the tech girl) are great warriors..we could have simply overwhelmed her with numbers. Heck our character could have used a shield or something (we already have the animation for that) to protect Mikoto while the rest attacks her.

    Instead we help her out, create a new primal that could be a threat to the whole resistance (that we wont have to worry about because plot demands it...) and lose a big number of the main fighters..and who knows if those can be saved or not.

    Honestly if a bad guy wants to defeat us he just has to put our character in the "cutscene" and suddenly we are as weak and slow as a newborn kitten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Yeah and it honestly took me out of the story quite a bit. These scenes are even more funny (in a sad way) if you are a machinist.
    Oh god, yeah. Given how it does end, it would be even more absurd on MCH than it was for us healers. Way to disempower the main character by making them dumb as a bag of rocks in cutscenes?

    I wonder if it's like the "female arm grab" that renders characters powerless in anime. Go into a cutscene, and suddenly we need an NPC to rescue us because apparently job stones all shut off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Oh god, yeah. Given how it does end, it would be even more absurd on MCH than it was for us healers. Way to disempower the main character by making them dumb as a bag of rocks in cutscenes?

    I wonder if it's like the "female arm grab" that renders characters powerless in anime. Go into a cutscene, and suddenly we need an NPC to rescue us because apparently job stones all shut off.
    As someone on the lore forum said its probably because they did not want to put in the work by giving each job (and race) its own unique animation...at the cost of the character feeling like they are not even there and being all weak. But just one little change and it would have all made much more sense...we would still be way too powerless but at least still within some reason..

    My character probably had to talk it all out with all the voices in her head...a certain Dark Knight one being the loudest...or maybe she just want to punch more stuff? Who knows...

    Its also quite sad how our character (and Mikoto too) has the echo and yet its never used in a situation like that...and seeing how Mikoto even can see a bit of the future...yeah really convient that it never works when we truly need it.
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