Revelations from Patch 5.3

[Alleo]

That scene also really bugged me.

I feel like much of the reason for the WoL being so...inactive during heated moments like that is because they didn't want to bother having to adjust the scenes to be appropriate for every single job which is why when you do actually do anything it's generally when we have some plot device handy or are using our Echo which aren't tied to any job in particular.

I guess its probably the reason (yet they still did that Lyse scene where I flew towards her ready to smack her with my books ) but it sadly does not take away from my frustration. Why not simply keep Mikoto at her side with the blade still at her throat? There great danger and realistically she would be faster then us. Or have them be surrounded by snipers that will hit them all if dont do what she wants. They could do stuff where it makes a bit of a sense. And really the rest of the story was interesting. I liked the different points of views and I absolutely loved that we got some notes on the characters (pleeeeeease SE adds these for every single old dungeon too..even with RNG droprate...I would farm them in a heartbeat)

But this finale just really brought me out of it...because now these other characters might (or might not) be forever lost.

Honestly when I watched Ethys stream today he also brought up something: How its really changing what a weapon can do or not. Why are we afraid of a gun if later the traitor is shot and seemingly quite fine? Or how seemingly no name NPC will often get cut down by one sword swipe no matter the gear but Mikoto getting hit by that slash only meant that she lay there and a bit later was seemingly quite fine...They really can just switch around what damage a weapon does...and his cutscene where Mikoto got captured was even more funny..because he was there as a machinist. So it would have all come down to who shots faster. Later when the traitor was shot someone just posted in his chat "so now people can shot again".

Cutscene crippling the WoL has been a issue since 2.0, more due to the fact they don't want to give the WoL any special animations during the cutscenes because of how the WoL can be any job and potentially scaling adjustment for the race the WoL is along with a lot of potential issues with constantly adjusting and implamenting all future jobs in future expansion into these old cutscenes.

Yeah sadly it wont be ever fixed but either they then have to plan around this by having the enemies plan it so that we simply cant react or give the WoL an action that is their action and does not depend on the job. A simple shield for example that they learned after Haurchefants death so that nobody ever takes hits for them. (As a story explanation on why we have learned it) Heck they already have the animation for this seeing how we suddenly started to cast the anti-tempering shields. (If I remember it correctly we could just do that against Lakshmi) Heck somewhere in ARR I think we got a certain dagger which we had to infuse with Materia. For fighting scenes in cutscenes you could use that. I mean our character is an adventurer, they should know some combat other than their current weapon. Giving us those kinds of items or attacks would then make it much easier to let the WoL be active..and not let them stand there as if they hadnt just defeated certains Ascians a few weeks earlier..

[EdwinLi]

Yeah sadly it wont be ever fixed but either they then have to plan around this by having the enemies plan it so that we simply cant react or give the WoL an action that is their action and does not depend on the job. A simple shield for example that they learned after Haurchefants death so that nobody ever takes hits for them. (As a story explanation on why we have learned it) Heck they already have the animation for this seeing how we suddenly started to cast the anti-tempering shields. (If I remember it correctly we could just do that against Lakshmi) Heck somewhere in ARR I think we got a certain dagger which we had to infuse with Materia. For fighting scenes in cutscenes you could use that. I mean our character is an adventurer, they should know some combat other than their current weapon. Giving us those kinds of items or attacks would then make it much easier to let the WoL be active..and not let them stand there as if they hadnt just defeated certains Ascians a few weeks earlier..

If WoL does get full animated actions for a cutscene, I can only assume it may have to be during the time after WoL awakens his powers as Azem so they have a story reason why WoL can use X or Y skills during a cutscene when he/she is X or Y job.

It will certainly be interesting if those animated actions are choices based on what job's WoL unlocked or currently using but for this they may have to be limited to the job's role (Tank, Healer, Melee DPS, Range DPS, and Caster) rather than the job itself.

[Alleo]

If WoL does get full animated actions for a cutscene, I can only assume it may have to be during the time after WoL awakens his powers as Azem so they have a story reason why WoL can use X or Y skills during a cutscene when he/she is X or Y job.

Well since we do have our Azem stone right now and this does probably play after Elidibus is gone they could have had a good enough reason to give our WoL a nice little shield. But since they never gave us a scene where the WoL learnt their anti-tempering shield I doubt they would truly need a reason to give it to us.

Guess in the end Fray is just so annoying in our heads that we are constantly not 100% there in the real world or she simply hoped that she could finally punch a primal again.

[EdwinLi]

Well since we do have our Azem stone right now and this does probably play after Elidibus is gone they could have had a good enough reason to give our WoL a nice little shield. But since they never gave us a scene where the WoL learnt their anti-tempering shield I doubt they would truly need a reason to give it to us.

Guess in the end Fray is just so annoying in our heads that we are constantly not 100% there in the real world or she simply hoped that she could finally punch a primal again.

Well we have to wait and see since lore wise, current WoL has not even awakened his powers as Azem yet. All of it is still sealed away inside the Azem Soul Crystal. The upcoming MSQ maybe about awakening those memories and powers through the course of 5.4 to 6.0