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  1. #181
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    - the prerequisites for duels is ridiculous and only depends on if you don't die and also don't take a vuln stack from anything. it should be based on personal performance based on role (dps, damage mitigation, healing) which is how you are rewarded in fates and hunts
    I think the main intent of having a pre-requisite for queueing for the solo fights was to thin out the amount of competition.

    Not to mention people who can't dodge the mechanics in the prior CEs likely don't have the consistency and/or awareness to beat said solo fights anyways. Not getting hit is much more important then putting out maximum DPS there as basically all avoidable damage will instakill if you're not using manaward or a death prevention cooldown (Though I'm pretty sure even those don't work on everything).

    The DPS check is very lenient if you're using offensive lost actions as they're tuned around the fact that melee are going to have be peeling off the boss to perform mechanics on a regular basis. It does also mean that ranged DPS have a huge advantage over the other jobs, though.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 10-18-2020 at 02:31 PM.

  2. #182
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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I think the main intent of having a pre-requisite for queueing for the solo fights was to thin out the amount of competition.

    Not to mention people who can't dodge the mechanics in the prior CEs likely don't have the consistency and/or awareness to beat said solo fights anyways. Not getting hit is much more important then putting out maximum DPS there as basically all avoidable damage will instakill if you're not using manaward or a death prevention cooldown (Though I'm pretty sure even those don't work on everything).

    The DPS check is very lenient if you're using offensive lost actions as they're tuned around the fact that melee are going to have be peeling off the boss to perform mechanics on a regular basis. It does also mean that ranged DPS have a huge advantage over the other jobs, though.
    i don't think it's bad there's a prerequisite, but i think it's bad when you can quite literally luck into it
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    Was in an instance last night for cluster farming and none of us were interested in doing Castrum if it popped because we had already cleared. When it did pop, there was quite a few people excited, but they didn't get enough to join. Because most of us were there the full instance time, this happened twice, because quite a few were there for just farming or were not rank 10 and couldn't anyway. Seemed like some people got burned in the same way from another instance as well.
    Yeah I did castrum a second time (since I saw that over 40 people had already registered..and it was such a smooth run) but afterwards I felt like it was not worth it. I did not get the missing information on that beastmaster and barely any mettle. I also dont need the armor..so for me I have no reason right now to even try it. In that time I could have farmed more of the other stuff. They really should give it some incentive if they make it mandatory for later relic steps..

    Quote Originally Posted by Azper View Post
    I think it's great in the sense that I literally don't even have to set foot in it to get my relics. I hated Eureka with a burning passion, so thank you SE for saving me the headache this round.

    Out of curiosity, I did go in just to check it out. It's basically Eureka reskinned in mud. Glad I'm not missing anything.

    See you in 5.4!
    Sadly some already said that there might have been some information that you would need to have finished Bozja to do the next step..I still hope that this is not true because then it would still be completely mandatory for at least one relic..
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    Last edited by Alleo; 10-18-2020 at 08:16 PM.

  4. #184
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    Castrum farming seems intended as a form of preparation for future parts of the relic quest and/or for the solo fights between the augmented armor and fragments with actions that are strict upgrades over the usual ones.

    Considering that you couldn't skip any of the zones of Eureka if you were trying to finish the relic, I seriously doubt they're going to let people get away with it here, either.
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  5. #185
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Considering that you couldn't skip any of the zones of Eureka if you were trying to finish the relic, I seriously doubt they're going to let people get away with it here, either.
    I'm sure you'll need to be max level before proceeding with the next relic update. That's not to say that they won't provide a way of upgrading the relic outside of the zone.
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  6. #186
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Castrum farming seems intended as a form of preparation for future parts of the relic quest and/or for the solo fights between the augmented armor and fragments with actions that are strict upgrades over the usual ones.

    Considering that you couldn't skip any of the zones of Eureka if you were trying to finish the relic, I seriously doubt they're going to let people get away with it here, either.
    Nah. Castrum is mostly for people that are aiming for the 48 version of the next dungeon. That one's also going to have a 24m version for players to finish the questline (I remember something about being at DF). I also understood that we are not going to get a new area.

    Pretty much all you need to do is reach rank 10 and do Castrum once.
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  7. #187
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm sure you'll need to be max level before proceeding with the next relic update. That's not to say that they won't provide a way of upgrading the relic outside of the zone.
    I expect you'll need rank 10 to progress in Bozja's next stage and carry on with the relic grind within Bozja.
    But the outside stage will probably just be SB FATEs and not require anything from Bozja still.
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  8. #188
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Feronar View Post
    Duels aren't meant for everyone. They are extremely difficult, and only the most skilled players will have any chance of beating them.
    Yes but the problem is (especially with Gabriel) that everyone who met the requirement can be chosen to go in, even if you 100% can't beat it. One instance of Gabriel that popped the person who was chosen didn't even go into the arena and wasted the time, so people didn't even get to watch it, and thus wasting it.
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    I expect you'll need rank 10 to progress in Bozja's next stage and carry on with the relic grind within Bozja.
    But the outside stage will probably just be SB FATEs and not require anything from Bozja still.
    Maybe but with Eureka you couldn't really progress until you got to the highest rank in each zone or it might have been one level less to enter. I don't remember and i should remember given how many toons i"ve taken through those zones but as I recall the story quests were level based.

    Going to get my main to 15 then worry about cluster farming and more and before starting an alt with the actual leveling needed.

    I'm happy that fate/dungeon farming makes upgrading multiple weapons easy. I certainly want to try the new BA at some point when I get there. i enjoyed the callouts with discord and how that avenue will exist for the current relic.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 10-18-2020 at 11:41 PM.

  10. #190
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    One of my biggest issues is that no one really wants to team up in the game for anything other than castrum. Been trying to get a cluster farm group together for about an hour and no one wanted to join. Heck, you can barely get a fate farm together a lot of the time.
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