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  1. #1
    Player
    MarniDawg's Avatar
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    Seefa Corgine
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    Leviathan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Bozja is a bit of a let down for me because there isnt much reason to do it beyond the story and a few items.

    Biggest problem is that it's faster and easier to farm relic items outside of Bozja. I dont think it needs to be easier in either place, but it needs to be equal.

    Another glaring issue is how quickly skirmishes are completed. It feels like there is a serious issue with scaling somewhere.

    There are a few reasons to farm some mobs, clusters and fragments but overall it feels like the mobs are just lawn ornaments. Few are deadly and they dont give mettle at all.

    Fireworks are so overused, please stop. Maybe just replace them with something like crafting shards or crystals? At least those have a practical use and can be sold to others if people dont need or want them.

    I can't speak to castrum yet as I haven't joined one.

    So now for a few positives. I very much enjoy the critical engagements and 1v1s. Its fantastic you can watch even when you cant participate.

    The star mobs are pretty neat. It's great they are a bit harder and the lost actions can be used to your advantage here.

    The process of ranking up has been quick and easy. Only rank 12 and have a bit to go, but so far seems good.

    Skirmishes spawn quickly with little down time so that's very nice.

    Overall my greatest disappointment is that other than to rank up and do story there doesn't seem to be much to do so I don't see myself spending much time in Bozja.
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    Yoshi Papa
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    Excalibur
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    Monk Lv 90
    I can appreciate Bozja for what it offers, but when put up against its predecessor, Bozja is akin to a steam demo of Eureka.

    To add upon the OP, the additional negatives for me is that Bozja: 1) lacks of personal accomplishment, 2) has an unnatural flow of themes, 3) is detached from involvement, and 4) barring relic drops all personal rewards are locked behind group effort.

    1) Lack of personal accomplishment.

    I don't feel my level. My rank doesn't reflect anything. It's a rank. It's meaningless. It means I can enter this gate and that's it. It means I can queue for Castrum and that's all. R15 took such work and for what ? The guy says "Oh, cool story bro" before allowing me to rank up, and I hate him for it. I'm not winning and he knows it. At the very least Eureka's mounting system had a sense of accomplishment. The fact that you didn't get one shotted by dullahan's anymore was another sense of accomplishment. You were stronk.

    2) Unnatural flow of themes, zone mechanics.

    Eureka felt like a world. Bozja makes me feel like I'm playing frogger and I just across the road and change scene, I'm jumping across lava. The idea of entering gates and the juxtaposition of the sudden cutoff of themes between these gates disenchanted me from my R1-R4 experience in an instant. The gates are an affront: "ZONE 2, NO ENTER. and not because your not stronk, but because your rank v v small."
    But even when you do get past the first gate, you realize something. It's choppy. Changed the channel type choppy. What even is the central theme to this world choppy. Perhaps it's even more obvious because of the small space the front operates within.

    3) Detached from involvement - Speedy Bro Edition.

    I like how engagements work, but being teleported zones away in order to participate in it is a huge disconnect. It's sort of an expansion upon #2. I can be all the way up in zone R8+, but then be teleported to an engagement down in R1-R4 zone. We have 3 aetherytes. We can mount up. It takes 3 minutes on average to even begin engagements, yet we must be teleported in order to reach an engagement. The teleportation serves as a way to further disconnect the reality of what a front is. Bozja Front is small as it is. If this is just a way to stop players from pulling engagements early, there are better and less disconnecting ways to do that. i.e. bunny fate mechanics without the randomness. I mean at this point, just teleport us to all the fates.

    One might argue "well, I'm busy in this one fate here, see. . ."
    Why should reaching an engagement be different than reaching a skirmish ? In fact, you have 3m to reach the engagement. And if you've the golden ticket, all is well.

    4) RR is an RP mechanic and ALL personal rewards are locked behind your group luck in Castrum.

    Eureka rewarded the individual for the individual's effort, barring Hydatos. But even still in Hydatos, bunny fates offered personal rewards if BA was not an interest. The issue with allowing relic drops in the overworld and in Bozja is that the devs must find a way to balance or make fair the rewards. Bozja has much less drop rate for relics, but includes a BA type reward system. On the other hand, the overworld has the best drop rate for relic items. I honestly can't decide whether the devs were out of ideas or simply spreading content where content should not have been spread to. For the overworld relic drops, all they simply did was make a Eureka of it. It is all still fates. Whether you hated Eureka or not, you are in one.

    So, then, balance the personal rewards. Give the overworld unique personal rewards that balance to Bozja's Castrum rewards. But imo, as the system is now, it's ridiculous that the overworld system exists.

    I just think of Eureka Anemos. Pyros. Hydatos. Bozja could have been so much more beautiful and creative. And maybe I'm wrong for thinking Bozja was meant to be even a hint of a successor. Yet all the components of Hydatos are there. Yet it's missing what made Pyros so thrilling. Beneath every game, there is a grind. It is how you design the content that you can cleverly make the grind fun or make the grind altogether disappear.
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    Last edited by VirusOnline; 10-15-2020 at 12:17 PM.

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    Dara Cember
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    Behemoth
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Castrum Lacus Litore Participation

    Even when the numbers exist on the Bozjan Southern Front map, players are not signing up or are leaving when 20 or less players are in the dungeon location. I don't know the actual difficulty of the dungeon unfortunately since I've not been able to find a map that has players willing and/or able to go in. So I don't know what the lowest number of players participating can be and I can't really chime in on groups disbanding and leaving when they perceive they don't have as many players as they feel they should.

    One of the things that I think interfeers with Lacus Litore being able to get participants is that: Castrum Lacus Litore can begin recruitment when other critical engagements are active.

    Currently players have no easy way to withdraw from an active Critical Engagements. Potential participants for Lacus Litore are therefore prevented from queueing and Lacus Litore ends up abandoned due to low participation.

    Suggestion:

    Prevent Castrum Lacus Litore from starting its participation sign up while other Critical Engagements are active.


    Story being locked behind a large scale dungeon encounter:

    I don't know how this could be eased at this point, but at least for future content it would be nice if the story of the instance could be concluded without a reliance upon a large scale dungeon encounter. I know we're only a few days in at this point, but its a bit frustrating to be sitting at a wall hoping other players will show up into the instance and being able and/or willing to participate.
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    Rostythgar Onasch
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Haven’t done it myself, but speaking on what I know of the relic, the drop rate in Bozja should be equal for the totally not FATEs. As in, gold rank is guaranteed, silver or below is RNG time.
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    Vicious Zvahl
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    Excalibur
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    Machinist Lv 100
    A lot of people are ignoring the story outright. Even heard of some people ignoring unlocking the relic quest, which I believe means you can't get the Dying Memories at all, without it active in your quest log heh.

    Personally I love it. I think they should add duel associated CEs to every lower rank area CE, so that higher level people will come to do them, so they can have a chance at the duel. I also noticed that the quest progression calls the quests, "weapons questline." My assumption is that it's easier to work on this relic stage outside of the BSF, but in order to get to the next quest when they release it, you're going to have to finish the BSF. Heh. So, at least if I'm right in my thinking, if you just get your relics upgraded without doing the BSF at all, then you're setting yourself up to be behind when the next Bozjan <Insert Compass direction here> Front opens up :P
    (1)

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    Chryden Speakel
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    Odin
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    The castrum has the difficulty of a alliance raid.
    It can be done when you have 2-3 better prepared player who knows what to do.

    But the rewards in there is....
    The amount of medals needed for the glam armour is fine, in a few runs you got the set you want.
    But to need 1k medals to upgrade haste on one single part is just way to much....
    You get 25 medals per run and need thousands to get gear that helps you in the instance with more haste is just not worth the time.
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    Dawn Solaris
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    Gilgamesh
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    Warrior Lv 90
    My feedback in general is that I think Bozja is amazing. Some of my fav content in the game.
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    Paca Kuma
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    Chocobo
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    But to need 1k medals to upgrade haste on one single part is just way to much....
    You get 25 medals per run and need thousands to get gear that helps you in the instance with more haste is just not worth the time.
    You have a chance of getting the upgrade items after the second boss if you save enough prisoners. The high medal cost is so that the items are rare if you're not putting in effort to do good Castrum runs and aren't just flooded on the market board.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Finished my weapon so I started getting into it.

    Eureka 2.0 as expected. Being teleported to CEs is nice. Leveling is fast enough. Uhh... Bozjan Clusters don't seem to drop very often; I only got like 1 in 3 hours.
    What Ancient said is right, doing it in a party means you get crazy good amounts of clusters. Also you need to know what mobs you should be aiming for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuma_aus View Post
    You have a chance of getting the upgrade items after the second boss if you save enough prisoners. The high medal cost is so that the items are rare if you're not putting in effort to do good Castrum runs and aren't just flooded on the market board.
    If it has the droprate of the AV minion then I will never get one.
    But good to know, so it is just for some sort of unlucky player like me.
    That makes it a bit better.
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    Paca Kuma
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    If it has the droprate of the AV minion then I will never get one.
    But good to know, so it is just for some sort of unlucky player like me.
    That makes it a bit better.
    I'd say it's better than AV. Quite a lot of screenshots floating around of people with them and it's only day 3. Not to mention they are marketboardable so just like Damascene Cloth and Cryptic Seals, the price of them will keep dropping.
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