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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    You are not 80% of the WHM that I have met. We generally play on different servers. 80% of at least 50 will be 40. Have I met about 40 bad WHM's? Exactly yes. Especially in 70-80 dungeons and raids. So bring your MP/Cast time numbers to these people who do not know how to play, they will be much more useful to them.
    If you've met 40 demonstrably bad WHMs out of the 50 total you've met... fine, that's 80% of all the WHMs you've met. So I'll accept that your claim is accurate within your own experience. Even with that, I'd still say that 50 healers is not a large enough sample size relative to the size of the overall playerbase on any one server—much less the entire FFXIV playerbase across all servers—to give any sort of meaningful statistics. According to the last XIVCensus, from April, there are 567k active CNJ players (because the census can only gather by class); 50 WHMs out of 567k is... what, something like 0.0089% of all WHM players?

    (I'd also say that if you've only played with roughly 50 WHMs, 40 of whom are bad ones, you might want to try expanding the group of folks you run content with; I'm fairly certain there's got to be more than 50 WHMs on your server, much less your datacenter. But that's neither here nor there.)

    And if you're saying that we're unable to respond to this accurately because it's 80% of the WHMs on your server, then fine... I cannot argue with that, as I don't play on your server/datacenter to have any personal experience to draw from.

    But when you post it here in general discussion with a claim of 80%, that implies you're saying 80% of all healers in the game. And if you're going to shoot down others' personal experiences on the grounds that "we generally play on different servers" as quoted above... then if it's a server-specific complaint, it maybe would've been better-suited put it in one of the server-specific subforums. Because otherwise you are going to have people think your 80% claim applies to healers on their server as well.

    So I guess I'll just lay out my position as: if you are claiming that 80% of all WHMs in the community will only DPS and not heal, my own experiences do not back this up. If you are claiming that 80% of all WHMs on your server will only DPS and not heal... I can't argue with that from personal experience, but I don't think this post really belonged in General Discussion as opposed to the server forum, then. If you are claiming that 80% of a sample size of 50 WHMs you personally play with will only DPS and not heal... I can't really argue with that, either—and you have my sympathy on your experiences—but then I really don't think 50 WHMs is a sufficient sample size to claim the behavior is so widespread.

    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    I'm not talking about an epidemic, but I'm talking about a trend
    If literally—and I mean genuinely, statistically, not just speaking-in-hyperbole—80% of all WHMs out there refuse to heal and only DPS? Then that is genuinely epidemic behavior, by definition. As adjectives, epidemic/pandemic/endemic just refer to frequency and spread, and as nouns they just mean 'something that is [epidemic/pandemic] to this situation we're describing'. (No, I have no idea why epidemic and pandemic can be nouns, and endemic never is used as such.)

    Epidemic means it affects a large number of people within a specific population or region. 80% of WHMs on Spriggan refusing to heal would mean the behavior is epidemic to the Spriggan WHM community, because 80% is 'a large number'.

    Pandemic means it affects a large number of people across multiple populations or regions. 80% of WHMs on all servers refusing to heal would mean the behavior is pandemic to the FFXIV community. If you think of FFXIV players as a subset of the larger MMO player community, it would mean that within that community, the behavior is epidemic to FFXIV players.

    Endemic means it is natural to or confined to a specific population or region. If all of the WHMs you encounter who refuse to heal come from Spriggan specifically, it would mean the behavior is endemic to Spriggan.

    (Sorry, I'm uncaffeinated, and when I'm uncaffeinated I can get pedantic. It's the engineer in me.)
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    Last edited by Packetdancer; 10-17-2020 at 04:15 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer
    The healer main's struggle for pants is both real, and unending. Be strong, sister. #GiveUsMorePants2k20 #HealersNotRevealers #RandomOtherSleepDeprivedHashtagsHere
    I aim to make my posts engaging and entertaining, even when you might not agree with me. And failing that, I'll just be very, VERY wordy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    (Sorry, I'm uncaffeinated, and when I'm uncaffeinated I can get pedantic. It's the engineer in me.)
    It was not easy to read such a wall of text. I appreciate your time and attention, and thank you for trying to explain your position, but you really need... caffeine.
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