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  1. #21
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    kaynide's Avatar
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Yes, the relics are only relevant for a short time.

    No, they are not for players like you, but those that enjoy the grind/want something semi-long term goal wise to do alone or with friends.

    Some people, not myself, enjoy grinding these things. All the more to them.
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  2. #22
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    Verendal's Avatar
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    Character
    Verendal Nokaitha
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 82

    It's a relic, this is what a relic is.

    Relics are, have always been, and will always be, glam. Sometimes for a VERY short time they are better than other items, but they are glam. Their purpose is to give you something to spend time on between patches. See:ARR relic, capable of taking 30-40 hours for each job's weapon, and in the end it was only 5 ilevel above augmented ironworks. Admittedly the customized substats could do interesting things to what counted as optimal, but none the less relics are glam and side content to keep you busy, not really a 'work for this to get a weapon upgrade' stuff.

    A lot easier to accept it when you realize that it's just putting time in to get a shiny thing. Also, that HW WHM weapon, mmmmm. Simple, shiny, glowy.
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  3. #23
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by t0rn View Post
    So all that grind is for something that will only be good in one patch? Seriously?
    Have you never played an MMO before?
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  4. #24
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    Xant'cha Argoth
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    OP reaks of Titanman. This is ether yet another new character by the same person or a copycat.
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  5. #25
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    Stepjam's Avatar
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by t0rn View Post
    Can I really play comfortably knowing that this game is duping others?
    Duping others? Everyone knows full well that the weapon won't stay current. Most people get relics for the glamours, not the stats. Usually the relic is only BiS at 5.5 anyway.
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  6. #26
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    t0rn's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Nespithe Demilich
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 87
    Quote Originally Posted by Verendal View Post
    Relics are, have always been, and will always be, glam. Sometimes for a VERY short time they are better than other items, but they are glam. Their purpose is to give you something to spend time on between patches. See:ARR relic, capable of taking 30-40 hours for each job's weapon, and in the end it was only 5 ilevel above augmented ironworks. Admittedly the customized substats could do interesting things to what counted as optimal, but none the less relics are glam and side content to keep you busy, not really a 'work for this to get a weapon upgrade' stuff.

    A lot easier to accept it when you realize that it's just putting time in to get a shiny thing. Also, that HW WHM weapon, mmmmm. Simple, shiny, glowy.
    Why didn't you guys say it was for glamour. Fashion is always worth the grind!
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  7. #27
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by t0rn View Post
    Can I really play comfortably knowing that this game is duping others?
    I've been exclusively using the relics as the weapon for all jobs since they were introduced. I don't feel duped.

    I took a break from raiding, so I don't have a static to get the Eden weapons. Sure I COULD do the extreme trials... but then I don't like doing learning parties in PF... and a 485 weapon was fine. It wasn't the best, but it was sufficient for the content I was doing. And now being a 500 weapon with 5 materia slots, this weapon will be comparable to the Eden weapon because of the added substats and is something I can complete solo.

    Different pieces of content are aimed at different players. The relic is for people who want to do more casual content as opposed to more hardcore content. It also tends to be for the more solitary player as its usually something you can complete entirely solo or in duty finder. Bozja was content aimed at people who enjoy the grind that was brought to the game in Eureka and wanted more of it. It's not content for everyone, very few pieces of content in this game are.
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  8. #28
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    Semirhage's Avatar
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    Nemene Damendar
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    "If you don't like it, don't do it" was last expansion's line.

    We're already out Deep Dungeons, an Ultimate, and a dungeon per patch this expansion because the Korean Grinder Simulator needs even more polish time.

    This is actively detracting from content I enjoy.
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  9. #29
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    Cin Aamon
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    Diabolos
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Hey guys, there's a pandemic goin' on.
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  10. #30
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Semirhage View Post
    "If you don't like it, don't do it" was last expansion's line.

    We're already out Deep Dungeons, an Ultimate, and a dungeon per patch this expansion because the Korean Grinder Simulator needs even more polish time.

    This is actively detracting from content I enjoy.
    The extra dungeon I admit I miss too (though we're only behind one dungeon every other patch. Stormblood did two in even patches and one in odd) since it makes you get sick of every dungeon faster since they stick around expert roulette longer and come up more frequently.

    But we're not really out an ultimate unless they confirmed there will not be one in 5.4 We got two of those in Stormblood and so far one in Shadowbringers.
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