Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
Yeah..you might be kinda new to the whole Relic thing.

See, when 2.0 came out, certain groups of players complained that there was no "endgame thing" to work towards, so they added the first round of Relics (Excalibur, etc). It was a substantial grind because, well, that's what the player base wanted.

Of course, they released similar-but-different variations of this for 3.0, 4.0 and now 5.0 is getting "part 2" of what will probably be 4-5+ steps.

If you don't want or like grinding it... don't. There are other ways to get weapons that will be near to these in power and very often these are best-in-slot only the patch they release. (There is usually a pattern where it's something like Relic -> Raid, likely Eden Savage -> Relic -> Crafted or Tomestone -> Relic again.)

I've only just done Excalibur in 5.0 because I could 1-man blitz it..so it's not like you NEED a relic to do any casual content.
So all that grind is for something that will only be good in one patch? Seriously?