Thread: What's 5.2? Feeling lost

Originally Posted by kaynide

Yeah..you might be kinda new to the whole Relic thing.

See, when 2.0 came out, certain groups of players complained that there was no "endgame thing" to work towards, so they added the first round of Relics (Excalibur, etc). It was a substantial grind because, well, that's what the player base wanted.

Of course, they released similar-but-different variations of this for 3.0, 4.0 and now 5.0 is getting "part 2" of what will probably be 4-5+ steps.

If you don't want or like grinding it... don't. There are other ways to get weapons that will be near to these in power and very often these are best-in-slot only the patch they release. (There is usually a pattern where it's something like Relic -> Raid, likely Eden Savage -> Relic -> Crafted or Tomestone -> Relic again.)

I've only just done Excalibur in 5.0 because I could 1-man blitz it..so it's not like you NEED a relic to do any casual content.

So all that grind is for something that will only be good in one patch? Seriously?

Originally Posted by t0rn

So all that grind is for something that will only be good in one patch? Seriously?

It's an option for people who don't want to do higher level content, want weapon glamours, want something that's decently viable before the next content drop, etc. If it doesn't seem appealing to you then don't do it. Not every piece of content in this game needs to be played by everyone.

Originally Posted by Enla

It's an option for people who don't want to do higher level content, want weapon glamours, want something that's decently viable before the next content drop, etc. If it doesn't seem appealing to you then don't do it. Not every piece of content in this game needs to be played by everyone.

Yeah I'd actually agree with this if Boring Korean Grinder MMO Instance Simulator wasn't taking more and more development time and resources away from the rest of the content with each expansion they invest into it.

If I wanted to farm field mobs for 500 hours I could do it without paying a sub.

Originally Posted by t0rn

So all that grind is for something that will only be good in one patch? Seriously?

Once they're finished the relic tends to be BiS for many jobs until around 5-6 levels into a new expansion. And again you don't have to do them. So they last for a good amount of time. The current step makes them even with the highest ilv you can get for a weapon which again is only as good until the next raid teir when the ilv will go up again. Which for now will be some time early December.

If you're this upset about something you don't have and is fairly easy to do compared to similar things in the past then oh boy do I have news for you. That's how the whole game is.

Originally Posted by t0rn

So all that grind is for something that will only be good in one patch? Seriously?

Have you never played an MMO before?

Originally Posted by t0rn

So all that grind is for something that will only be good in one patch? Seriously?

Just..........................don't do it then?

Originally Posted by Coletergeist

Just..........................don't do it then?

Can I really play comfortably knowing that this game is duping others?

Originally Posted by t0rn

Can I really play comfortably knowing that this game is duping others?

No one is being duped. Veteran players already know the general system and that information is available online for new players who are interested.

You have the option to do the content or not do it as you choose.

I'm not doing it yet myself. I could care less about getting a weapon massively overloaded with pointless special effects that isn't necessary for the content I tend to do. I'm sticking to other things I enjoy more. I'll get in there eventually for the sake of seeing the story but I won't stick around ro grind out anything beyond the minimum needed to progress the story.

The same option applies to you. If you decide you're not getting enough content here, go ahead and return to WoW until there is more content added here that you are interested in. There's no law saying you can't play and enjoy both games.

Originally Posted by t0rn

Can I really play comfortably knowing that this game is duping others?

Duping others? Everyone knows full well that the weapon won't stay current. Most people get relics for the glamours, not the stats. Usually the relic is only BiS at 5.5 anyway.

Originally Posted by t0rn

Can I really play comfortably knowing that this game is duping others?

I've been exclusively using the relics as the weapon for all jobs since they were introduced. I don't feel duped.

I took a break from raiding, so I don't have a static to get the Eden weapons. Sure I COULD do the extreme trials... but then I don't like doing learning parties in PF... and a 485 weapon was fine. It wasn't the best, but it was sufficient for the content I was doing. And now being a 500 weapon with 5 materia slots, this weapon will be comparable to the Eden weapon because of the added substats and is something I can complete solo.

Different pieces of content are aimed at different players. The relic is for people who want to do more casual content as opposed to more hardcore content. It also tends to be for the more solitary player as its usually something you can complete entirely solo or in duty finder. Bozja was content aimed at people who enjoy the grind that was brought to the game in Eureka and wanted more of it. It's not content for everyone, very few pieces of content in this game are.