Nope you didn't add enough plots SE...

[Jojoya]

My suggestion is bring back OG pricing and demand will go down, it could in theory introduce RMT but who is so stupid to spend money on virtual money for a house? I'd be shocked to know.

Many of the same people who spend real money to play a game. There are plenty of people willing to pay real money to get what they want if they can't get it through other means (and sometimes even if they can because it's less effort).

[Sauteed]

I know this is a frustrating, terrible experience for a lot of people.. but there's no reason to attack each other so much :P It's not very likely that the devs implemented hidden timers to combat RMT ONLY because of one suggestion by an English-speaking player.

100% agree with this.

If they manage to at least double the # of plots - yes still not everyone will get a Large - but at least everyone who actually cares about housing and wants to enjoy it can find something really cool.

This tho is a little off from what I think would be best. But my suggestion might be the one that may be worse than this. I think an instanced housing system that provides for upgradability would suit the needs of the majority of players, and probably be the best solution going forward if the game grows an even larger player base. Cost wise, well, that's something else. We hear things like "spaghetti code" and all that kind of reasoning, but in the end it is money and time and talent that rightly steers the course of civilization! And in this forum of creeping mendacity, this one truth with prove it's salv.. the heck am I saying?

[Angelhearth]

but who is so stupid to spend money on virtual money for a house? I'd be shocked to know.

The same people who buy gil? Maybe letting the players buy houses via RMT wouldn't be the stupidest. SE would earn money, and more importantly, the bottom would fall out of the gil market, reducing bots on a large scale, and bring some sense back into the market board.

[Almagnus1]

Many of the same people who spend real money to play a game. There are plenty of people willing to pay real money to get what they want if they can't get it through other means (and sometimes even if they can because it's less effort).

That's kinda why FFXIV needs some actual gil sinks that aren't player housing. There's enough players at gil cap that they need something (anything) to do with the gil that isn't housing.

The same people who buy gil? Maybe letting the players buy houses via RMT wouldn't be the stupidest. SE would earn money, and more importantly, the bottom would fall out of the gil market, reducing bots on a large scale, and bring some sense back into the market board.

That wouldn't really solve the problem, and may open SE up to legal issues because they would be selling something they can't promise - let alone people abusing the system to keep a house in RMT purchase in a state where it can't be bought ingame for an extended period of time because they are trying to buy it with RMT.

IMO if SE wants to allow us to effectively buy gil, then they should introduce the subscription widget (like what EVE and WoW has) so we can use our gil on sub time.... in addition to other gil sinks that should also be added.

[ADVSS]

The same people who buy gil? Maybe letting the players buy houses via RMT wouldn't be the stupidest. SE would earn money, and more importantly, the bottom would fall out of the gil market, reducing bots on a large scale, and bring some sense back into the market board.

For real, at this point throwing housing in the cash shop would be better than the system they have now. At least maybe Large and XL housing. People will pay 35 bucks for a mount, im certain theyd pay whatever for a house, even if they become account locked and limited

[Sauteed]

im certain theyd pay whatever for a house, even if they become account locked and limited

Definitely would need to be account locked, but if it is purchasable I'd prefer they be unlimited. I'm not sure about recurring payments for it, or 1 time charge would be best.. Certainly in the eyes of business masters, "recurring payments" would be needed.. but if you handled it like retainers, and just charged a nominal fee per month that'd be pretty good idea, just don't be like 20$ or more a month. If it were a 1 time fee I could see something like 40 bucks for a big one. Housing is something I like, but I'm not gonna spend a whole bunch on it. Even a medium house handled in the optional services manner could be like $5 a month, just let everybody on the service account use it, or data center at least. How they'd go about making it? Not sure. Could look through all the various suggestions about an instanced housing system.

[TwistedTea]

For real, at this point throwing housing in the cash shop would be better than the system they have now. At least maybe Large and XL housing. People will pay 35 bucks for a mount, im certain theyd pay whatever for a house, even if they become account locked and limited

Can we stop encouraging SE to, microtransaction us even further in game which we buy to play and pay subscriptions for?

inb4 "Optional Content."

SE could improve upon apartments so that they are upgradeable for gil to condos/penthouses with balconies for gardening and workshop access to reduce demand on ward housing. That seems the most feasible improvement.

[ADVSS]

Can we stop encouraging SE to, microtransaction us even further in game which we buy to play and pay subscriptions for?

inb4 "Optional Content."

SE could improve upon apartments so that they are upgradeable for gil to condos/penthouses with balconies for gardening and workshop access to reduce demand on ward housing. That seems the most feasible improvement.

I actually agree with you about the encouragement, i dont cash shop, besides once with eternal bonding shenanigans, which was indeed optional anyway. Personally I feel like the gated content from housing, really is more decoration space, and more limiting even, if you arent a FC house personally. It does allow gardening and chocobo stables for private people, sure(almost certain many FC dont even care if you stable the chocobo as long as you clean the stable when needed) which leaves gardening as possibly the only content one might be prevented from in an FC where they do not have those permissions. And a lot of space to drop furniture. But as far as losing out on content, only FC get that content when owning a house, like literally. Outside of RP, or just cause, you really arent losing out anything. In fact, you can even own a private room in a FC house, but a personal one? Do I think any of that is fair? well not particularly. Plot wise and everything is the same, besides that tag. But the content area? Its all stacked on FC, and not so much private really.

[Coletergeist]

Guys, just because Almagus1 made that suggestion a while back ago, that does not give you the right to harass this individual and literally make some of their housing suggestions your signatures. That is the definition of harassment.

People can change and evolve their opinions/ideas/etc. Clearly they have changed their stance with the situation. I agree with them, and you should knock it off.

[Divinemights]

Guys, just because Almagus1 made that suggestion a while back ago, that does not give you the right to harass this individual and literally make some of their housing suggestions your signatures. That is the definition of harassment.

People can change and evolve their opinions/ideas/etc. Clearly they have changed their stance with the situation. I agree with them, and you should knock it off.

This is the same reason why players feedbacks do not weight much and developers absolutely do not need to follow 100%.
Takes this person for example, his opinion shift because his current condition.
He probably already got his “dream plot” therefore now he thinks invisible timer on relocation is fine while others is still taking chance on each major plot release to move to a better location