Nope you didn't add enough plots SE...

[Vaen]

I know this is a frustrating, terrible experience for a lot of people.. but there's no reason to attack each other so much :P It's not very likely that the devs implemented hidden timers to combat RMT ONLY because of one suggestion by an English-speaking player.

Yes, people have been waiting YEARS and that's terrible, but if Ishgard housing arrives next xpac, that'll be 24 (or more!) new wards instead of the 12 we got this patch. I know that's not enough, but I think this "we're optimizing and beefing up the servers" thing is also a sign of hope. FFXIV seems to be more successful than ever right now, so I think Yoshi-P can convince SE to invest in the technology needed to at least double the number of wards, and add Ishgard on top of that.

I think the neighborhood system is really cool and unique, the problem is just the scarcity (and, relatedly, the flippers, RMTers, and multiple-plot-owners).

If they manage to at least double the # of plots - yes still not everyone will get a Large - but at least everyone who actually cares about housing and wants to enjoy it can find something really cool. Plus it would be amazing for the player economy. They're not going to scrap everything they've done so far and do a whole new instance-only system, so this is a solution that can do some good and Yoshi-P seems to be working towards this!

[Luna-M]

If they manage to at least double the # of plots - yes still not everyone will get a Large

No one is entitled to a medium or large, not even a FC. People need learn this. They are limited for a reason.

My suggestion is bring back OG pricing and demand will go down, it could in theory introduce RMT but who is so stupid to spend money on virtual money for a house? I'd be shocked to know.

[Jojoya]

My suggestion is bring back OG pricing and demand will go down, it could in theory introduce RMT but who is so stupid to spend money on virtual money for a house? I'd be shocked to know.

Many of the same people who spend real money to play a game. There are plenty of people willing to pay real money to get what they want if they can't get it through other means (and sometimes even if they can because it's less effort).

[Almagnus1]

Many of the same people who spend real money to play a game. There are plenty of people willing to pay real money to get what they want if they can't get it through other means (and sometimes even if they can because it's less effort).

That's kinda why FFXIV needs some actual gil sinks that aren't player housing. There's enough players at gil cap that they need something (anything) to do with the gil that isn't housing.

The same people who buy gil? Maybe letting the players buy houses via RMT wouldn't be the stupidest. SE would earn money, and more importantly, the bottom would fall out of the gil market, reducing bots on a large scale, and bring some sense back into the market board.

That wouldn't really solve the problem, and may open SE up to legal issues because they would be selling something they can't promise - let alone people abusing the system to keep a house in RMT purchase in a state where it can't be bought ingame for an extended period of time because they are trying to buy it with RMT.

IMO if SE wants to allow us to effectively buy gil, then they should introduce the subscription widget (like what EVE and WoW has) so we can use our gil on sub time.... in addition to other gil sinks that should also be added.

[Angelhearth]

but who is so stupid to spend money on virtual money for a house? I'd be shocked to know.

The same people who buy gil? Maybe letting the players buy houses via RMT wouldn't be the stupidest. SE would earn money, and more importantly, the bottom would fall out of the gil market, reducing bots on a large scale, and bring some sense back into the market board.

[ADVSS]

The same people who buy gil? Maybe letting the players buy houses via RMT wouldn't be the stupidest. SE would earn money, and more importantly, the bottom would fall out of the gil market, reducing bots on a large scale, and bring some sense back into the market board.

For real, at this point throwing housing in the cash shop would be better than the system they have now. At least maybe Large and XL housing. People will pay 35 bucks for a mount, im certain theyd pay whatever for a house, even if they become account locked and limited

[Sauteed]

im certain theyd pay whatever for a house, even if they become account locked and limited

Definitely would need to be account locked, but if it is purchasable I'd prefer they be unlimited. I'm not sure about recurring payments for it, or 1 time charge would be best.. Certainly in the eyes of business masters, "recurring payments" would be needed.. but if you handled it like retainers, and just charged a nominal fee per month that'd be pretty good idea, just don't be like 20$ or more a month. If it were a 1 time fee I could see something like 40 bucks for a big one. Housing is something I like, but I'm not gonna spend a whole bunch on it. Even a medium house handled in the optional services manner could be like $5 a month, just let everybody on the service account use it, or data center at least. How they'd go about making it? Not sure. Could look through all the various suggestions about an instanced housing system.

[TwistedTea]

For real, at this point throwing housing in the cash shop would be better than the system they have now. At least maybe Large and XL housing. People will pay 35 bucks for a mount, im certain theyd pay whatever for a house, even if they become account locked and limited

Can we stop encouraging SE to, microtransaction us even further in game which we buy to play and pay subscriptions for?

inb4 "Optional Content."

SE could improve upon apartments so that they are upgradeable for gil to condos/penthouses with balconies for gardening and workshop access to reduce demand on ward housing. That seems the most feasible improvement.

[ADVSS]

Can we stop encouraging SE to, microtransaction us even further in game which we buy to play and pay subscriptions for?

inb4 "Optional Content."

SE could improve upon apartments so that they are upgradeable for gil to condos/penthouses with balconies for gardening and workshop access to reduce demand on ward housing. That seems the most feasible improvement.

I actually agree with you about the encouragement, i dont cash shop, besides once with eternal bonding shenanigans, which was indeed optional anyway. Personally I feel like the gated content from housing, really is more decoration space, and more limiting even, if you arent a FC house personally. It does allow gardening and chocobo stables for private people, sure(almost certain many FC dont even care if you stable the chocobo as long as you clean the stable when needed) which leaves gardening as possibly the only content one might be prevented from in an FC where they do not have those permissions. And a lot of space to drop furniture. But as far as losing out on content, only FC get that content when owning a house, like literally. Outside of RP, or just cause, you really arent losing out anything. In fact, you can even own a private room in a FC house, but a personal one? Do I think any of that is fair? well not particularly. Plot wise and everything is the same, besides that tag. But the content area? Its all stacked on FC, and not so much private really.

[Almagnus1]

Can we stop encouraging SE to, microtransaction us even further in game which we buy to play and pay subscriptions for?

inb4 "Optional Content."

Yeah, the entire "give us microtransactions for housing!" thing seems a bit... off... here.

Doubly so when instanced housing would be a good compliment to the current system and would help alleviate many of the issues we've seen for a long while.

SE could improve upon apartments so that they are upgradeable for gil to condos/penthouses with balconies for gardening and workshop access to reduce demand on ward housing. That seems the most feasible improvement.

As cool as balconies are, I could see this running into some technical issues with how the ward is interacting with the balcony. If the balcony is facing away from the ward... that would (hopefully) be a very doable thing. Facing towards the ward and the devs would need tech similar to phasing. That said, it'd still be cool if they could pull it off and would also make apartments **A LOT** more interesting as a housing alternative, as cross-gardening is the one crucial thing that they need to be a compelling alternative to houses IMO.