Letting sub lapse until housing fixed

[KayRadley]

What door? We're all hobos since nobody is allowed to have a house.

Apartments.

[ADVSS]

Because they are aware of the issue and have already stated this is just a temp fix in releasing the few new wards. When ishgard housing release there will be what, 1400 new plots per server? Demolition timer will most likely be back on at that point as well. Yoshi P also already stated they were in the process of procuring a more robust server to allow more wards but it was interrupted by the coronavirus. That's still on their agenda for the future. So, knowing all this, why do people still whine and complain? Honestly it's just because they missed out on the house this time and want to cry about it.

You literally just sent a hail mary to the OP for their entire reason for this thread. 13 years and cant fix. All up untill HW is free for newbies, but Veteran's Rewards can go suck it, yeah why they hell should people keep or continue to subscribe? Hoo Housing and upkeep is literally the only thing they can do as incentives for people resubbing, besides their abyssmal new tome gear upgrades math(256 weeks of capping tomes for all gear for all jobs, that is 4 years of grinding initally). Raiders dont even typically stay subbed, they get a month every half a year, clear it all and are good. Maybe they're having a tough time, and subbing for 2 whole months every even patch release. They have no reason to hold on or keep paying. Housing is it, baby. And what a terrible business model is it, when its implemented as dirty as it is in this game alone.

[PrinceThrash]

Because they are aware of the issue and have already stated this is just a temp fix in releasing the few new wards. When ishgard housing release there will be what, 1400 new plots per server? Demolition timer will most likely be back on at that point as well. Yoshi P also already stated they were in the process of procuring a more robust server to allow more wards but it was interrupted by the coronavirus. That's still on their agenda for the future. So, knowing all this, why do people still whine and complain? Honestly it's just because they missed out on the house this time and want to cry about it.

Nothing has been confirmed yet. So until I have confirmation, I shall continue to "whine and complain." When Yoshi P puts out that we will be getting Ishgard housing, all 24 wards, all 60 plots, demo timer is turned back on, players allowed 1 house per server (that one is just wishful thinking, I'm ok as long as there is enough housing) and gives me a release date.... On that day I will zip my lip on this subject. Until then my fellow Eorzean, I shall continue to complain from my mother's basement, drowning my sorrows in hot pockets and pizza rolls.

[ItMe]

On that day I will zip my lip on this subject.

No way dude.
Next we gotta en masse start asking for Crystarium housing.

[PrinceThrash]

No way dude.
Next we gotta en masse start asking for Crystarium housing.

Lol, true. If it's a major city, we demand housing for it!

[Seddrinth]

Until then my fellow Eorzean, I shall continue to complain from my mother's basement, drowning my sorrows in hot pockets and pizza rolls.

Lol that's fine I guess. More entertainment for the rest of us. *grabs popcorn*

[EaMett]

I don\\'t understand why people are defending a clear problem with this game. I love this game too. It\\'s ok to give constant reminding feedback to the devs that this is an ongoing problem that has yet to be addressed. This has always been an issue. It\\'s not a new issue.... "13-year issue".... It keeps getting put on the back burner. If you really love this game and want it to continue to improve, you have to provide the good and the bad feedback. The more excuses you make for the devs, and the more you call out the people that complain about a present issue does not help. Praise the good, but don\\'t make excuses for the bad because you think we\\'re being bullies to the devs. This is the best MMO out in my opinion, but stop treating it like its flawless.

It’s because a lot of people are upset that not everyone can get a house but that’s the actual design. It’s a feature not a flaw kinda thing. Meant to reward about 30% of players on a server.
The constant placard spamming is stupid and needs to change but otherwise the feature is accessible to those who spend the time to get in. Yes it takes ages and is a real time investment but so is the mentor mount and many other achievements in this game.

I feel for those who came back empty handed this time around but this patch was only meant to make up for the demo timers being down. We’re due another district around now so we obviously have way more people backed up. This should have been expected going in.
A lot of the people complaining in here are probably the same people who went into this aiming for a first plot outside of the goblet.
Regardless of whether everything was gone by the time they got in, it was already a poor mindset from the getgo. Ward and district additions in general are just a 30mn opportunity to increase your odds in a larger house hunting strategy. If you’re getting upset over it, you were expecting too much.

Also your numbers aren’t right. As of April this year there were between 7.5k and 12.5k active -characters- on servers (depending on server population). I’m going to also add 40% players that may be inactive due to the lull in content and came back for this patch. It’s improbable that the figure is that high but let’s go with it. So 10.5 to 17.5k.
Assuming every single character is NOT an alt and that every player wants a house (which isn’t the case but we’ll say it’s true to count for FCs), that means that on the most populated servers about 33% of players have access to plots and on the least populated about 50% of players have access. And ishgard will increase those to roughly 40% and 60%. Obviously we should have more players at that point and things will settle back to where we currently are, this fluctuation has been consistent and the same for years now, with the devs keeping housing at the 30% mark on the most populated servers.

A lot of players are extremely successful with repeatedly getting housing. If you’re struggling you might be doing something unoptimized or underestimating the effort required.

Housing definitely isn’t for everyone, it’s actually only for the top 30% of most committed players to the feature. That’s a bar that moves with the player base. Yes some people get lucky and some people get unlucky but on average that’s how it works.

[Wartgood]

Thank you, All, for both the comments of support and cruelty. 42 days left in my sub, I'll wrap up what I can. Maybe I'll actually finish yokai . . . maybe not

The only voice I have is to vote with my dollars. Less than a drop in SE's bucket I know, but it's the right thing to do.

I was looking forward to being a member of a very small FC, and really getting to experience gardening, airships, and subs. I guess I should have been more realistic about how soulcrushing an experience that can be.

So, for those who saw the hurt and responded as human beings, I wish you days of friendship, and heart tugging story, and everything that's great in this game.

For those who chose to take a moment to be hateful, it looks like you're busy building an experience that I wouldn't wish on anybody.

For a better tomorrow, Cuddly

[PrinceThrash]

It’s because a lot of people are upset that not everyone can get a house but that’s the actual design. It’s a feature not a flaw kinda thing. Meant to reward about 30% of players on a server.

I don't think that's the design at all. I could be wrong but that doesn't make much sense to me. They're adding more housing because they see that it is a problem. Square Enix is paid via subscription, not by the amount of time we spend in activities in game. They care about the guy that logs in a couple hours a week consistently just as much as the guy that plays the game a couple hours every day. And as far as the mentor mount and similar things, there is a clear path on what needs to be done to complete and be rewarded with that mount. The housing as of now is luck based and how much time you can spend online in game. I had a house in limsa last year that unfortunately got demo'd cuz I had to take a break from the game. The house wasn't special to me because I had one and so many others didn't. It was special cuz it was mine, it was fun to decorate, a plot personalized by me. So, I think it is a flaw and not by design, that's why Square is working to fix by adding more housing.

[PennyStormfire]

Yeah, I think this is the last straw for me as well. There are countless solutions that have been recommended over and over, yet here we are with people missing work, spending hours clicking, forgoing food and rest and anything else. This is no longer something that can be brushed under the rug by apologists. This is causing harm.