Party Finder RMT selling clears and items

[MsMisato]

Report if your're 100% sure, blacklist them via PF and move on. Its all you can do.

[kaynide]

The only way they can sell you an ultimate clear is through account sharing which is against the TOS. It simply cannot be done with only 7 active players and no party will teach you the fight as this would take hours or days as one mistake is usually going to wipe the group. Selling a clear means they will log in with your account and play with your character to get you what you want. So even if it is not RMT it is still a bannable offense.

I’m not sure what account sharing has to do with anything. To sell runs all you need to do is be able to clear it with 7 people (which has been done). It just requires some janky hijinks or bleeding-edge optimization/gear. Difficult doesn’t mean impossible. And of course with each passing week, you get more and more people who are better at the fight..just a matter of time before groups can confidently “sell” a run.

[Absurdity]

I’m not sure what account sharing has to do with anything. To sell runs all you need to do is be able to clear it with 7 people (which has been done). It just requires some janky hijinks or bleeding-edge optimization/gear. Difficult doesn’t mean impossible. And of course with each passing week, you get more and more people who are better at the fight..just a matter of time before groups can confidently “sell” a run.

I would assume that it doesn't matter if you could do an ultimate with 7 people from a dps standpoint, the mechanics simply won't let you if someone is dead 90% of the time. Even savage fights have mechanics where you simply wipe unless all 8 people execute them correctly, Light Rampant being a good example. You can't "carry" someone through E8S with only 7 people doing mechanics.

[Eriane_Elis]

I believe Yoshi P talked about this in an interview long ago. He said something along the lines that it's not against the ToS since it's based on in-game trade items/currency. Basically bounty hunting. I think he was also encouraging this practice, I can't remember because it's been too long. IMO they should have a bounty board where players could post requests for clears, certain items, and offer their own services. I suppose that's what the fellowship might be for other than the frequent eRP channels that show up? lol

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I believe Yoshi P talked about this in an interview long ago. He said something along the lines that it's not against the ToS since it's based on in-game trade items/currency. Basically bounty hunting. I think he was also encouraging this practice, I can't remember because it's been too long. IMO they should have a bounty board where players could post requests for clears, certain items, and offer their own services. I suppose that's what the fellowship might be for other than the frequent eRP channels that show up? lol

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't need 5 accounts asking you to talk to the same person on discord (IE same discord account) if they were doing it for gil. They are just as bad as gil spammers in cities IMO.

[kaynide]

I would assume that it doesn't matter if you could do an ultimate with 7 people from a dps standpoint, the mechanics simply won't let you if someone is dead 90% of the time. Even savage fights have mechanics where you simply wipe unless all 8 people execute them correctly, Light Rampant being a good example. You can't "carry" someone through E8S with only 7 people doing mechanics.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ek4y1k7rA

Ultima ultimate cleared with 7 people. I never specified any specific fight, just that if it were possible, people could make money.

There is a difference in stance that “all ultimates can be done with 7”, and “fights which can be done with 7 will see clear sales”. My point is the latter.

I’m not sure what you are assuming, because even Bismarck ex needs 2 people to do unsync’d. Certain fights just require bodies. Some don’t.

[Krojack]

Is there a right click > report bot function? Or anything like that?

The only right click > report in the game is from someones name in chat and it's for RMT only. Can't even report bots or cheating this way. All other reporting you have to manually fill out a forum.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

I’m not sure what account sharing has to do with anything. To sell runs all you need to do is be able to clear it with 7 people (which has been done).

Maybe UCoB and UWU are now doable with 7 players but people are also selling Ultimate Alexander clears and that can't be done (so far) without 8 active people, so account sharing/piloting your character is an absolute requirement for that.

[kaynide]

Maybe UCoB and UWU are now doable with 7 players but people are also selling Ultimate Alexander clears and that can't be done (so far) without 8 active people, so account sharing/piloting your character is an absolute requirement for that.

Which was never my point.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Which was never my point.

You were asking what account sharing has to do with anything and were arguing that it is possible to clear with 7 people, making it "legal" to sell those clears. But Alexander Ultimate is NOT possible with 7 people and can't be done without account sharing/piloting another account, which would be against the ToS same like RMT. So there is no way it is "legal" to sell a Alexander Ultimate clear, makeing the offer suspicious and reportable to begin with - which is the whole point of this thread.