Results 1 to 10 of 552

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Iscah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    14,158
    Character
    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saix027 View Post
    True, tho, in his case he only transfered his memorys also, while the Scions had to transfer there memories AND soul/body in the shard. Maybe it just is explained poorly and got lost in translation also, for me it seemed it is just his memory we carry over so he can continue his own legacy. Feels awkard still, since i mean Ardbert not just merged or overwritten our memories after all as well.
    An important detail does seem to be getting lost in translation, as you say.

    The Exarch didn't transfer only his memories. Both his soul and memories are in the crystal, just like the other Scions. The only difference is that he didn't put both in at once.

    When the Scions transfer themselves into the crystals, first they transfer their memories and the red part begins to glow. Then their souls enter the crystals and the white part begins to glow.

    Now look at the final scene with the Exarch - cutscene #5 of "Hope's Confluence".

    When we first show him the crystal, only the red part is glowing from the memories he transferred into it earlier.

    He tells us that his "mind and memories" will travel with us while his body remains here.

    We hold it out to him, he looks at it, and it begins to glow white. This means his soul has gone into the crystal - but unlike the Scions, who simply vanish into aether, he has a physical body to leave behind.

    If anything, it seems that his soul was holding back the complete transformation of his body, and it's only after he leaves it that the crystallisation takes over.



    Also it doesn't seem like merging his two souls has "overwritten" the younger G'raha, just added to him. When you talk with him afterwards at the Rising Stones, he seems like a balance between the two. He has the Exarch's memories, of course, but he just seems younger and different. It will be interesting to see how he acts from here onwards.
    (3)

  2. #2
    Player
    Erendis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,347
    Character
    E'renndis Harper
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    An important detail does seem to be getting lost in translation, as you say.

    The Exarch didn't transfer only his memories. Both his soul and memories are in the crystal, just like the other Scions. The only difference is that he didn't put both in at once.
    Tbh, it is really weird that this info is in missable dialog. I missed this one dialog and story outcome was totally different. Also, everyone else needed porxie to transfer souls and there was no porxie with Exarch...

    On another missable dialog, it was really sweet of Urianger to miss Emet-Selch in Ocular too (he better make his minion >.> ).

    I've been thinking about Rising event and while the minstrel's song is about past, perhaps his words about balance of elements and facing new dawn have something to do with the future.
    For a while now I've been thinking about Minfilia's words (even before 5.3):

    And in light of Azem they gain some importance.

    Could ancient city/country across the pond where calamity began be in current Meracydia? What if Azem was counted as deserter because they went there to help?

    On unrelated note, we get submarines to travel to Polynesia, what's the counterpart here?
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    Iscah's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2017
    Posts
    14,158
    Character
    Aurelie Moonsong
    World
    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    Tbh, it is really weird that this info is in missable dialog. I missed this one dialog and story outcome was totally different. Also, everyone else needed porxie to transfer souls and there was no porxie with Exarch...
    What do you mean, "missable dialogue"? The line about his mind and memories was fairly clear in the scene. The rest of what I explained about the glowing colours of the crystal wasn't dialogue at all - it's my observation of what is shown on the screen. The camera focuses on the crystals as these things happen.

    The thing with the porxie was explained sometime earlier in 5.1/5.2, I think, but I'll have to go over that explanation again. It was something about the Scions' aether.
    (2)

  4. #4
    Player
    Alleo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    4,730
    Character
    Light Khah
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post

    The thing with the porxie was explained sometime earlier in 5.1/5.2, I think, but I'll have to go over that explanation again. It was something about the Scions' aether.
    I think the porxie was only needed for the scions because they were only souls that seemingly changed so much that they needed that spell to get out of their built shells? (Not remembering the exact way they explained it) The exarch of course had no such restrictions since he had his body with him.
    (1)