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    MaraD_'s Avatar
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    Hede Devaul
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    Mateus
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    Fisher Lv 80
    People want a healer that doensnt have cast bars.
    So they think if they ask for DNC/CHM healers, they wouldnt get cast bars.
    (And little do they realize, if DNC was going to be a healer, it would have had a "Dance" bar, and CHM will have a "Mixing" bar. Both of which require standing still, and both are effected by swift cast.)

    Just accept the fact we're just getting a reskinned WHM.
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    Lucana Wyght
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MaraD_ View Post
    People want a healer that doensnt have cast bars.
    So they think if they ask for DNC/CHM healers, they wouldnt get cast bars.
    (And little do they realize, if DNC was going to be a healer, it would have had a "Dance" bar, and CHM will have a "Mixing" bar. Both of which require standing still, and both are effected by swift cast.)

    Just accept the fact we're just getting a reskinned WHM.
    Yeah, a dancer healer would just have a dancing animation while casting heals instead of just holding a stick up. Maybe it would be a bit more mobile than other healers, but it would still operate with the same framework and basic parameters, with a couple of job specific mechanics tossed in like cards/lillies/fairy etc, but ultimately I don't think we're going to ever get an 'outside the box' tank or healer in this game.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MaraD_ View Post
    Just accept the fact we're just getting a reskinned WHM.
    Yes, because apparently a healer that has a fairy and specializes in shields and oGCDs through a limited resource and a healer who buffs through cards and specializes in fast casting and a versatile tool kit are the same as a burst healer who specializes in heavy healing and regens.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuella View Post
    Male healers look girly in robes
    I honestly disagree.

    My male healers do wear robes, at least some of the time, and it doesn't magically make them look feminine. Sure it depends on the individual design, but robes are historically male clothing as well and I have absolutely no impression of them looking "girly" just because they're wearing a robe and not a shirt.

    If nothing else, surely the image of a wizard in robes is sufficiently established?



    Quote Originally Posted by TitaniumVulpes View Post
    Red Mage, Scholar, and Gunbreaker would all like to know your location.
    1. I did say most of the time.

    2. We have plenty of ways around the exceptions, in both class-specific and all-class gear. GNB works well with gatherer sets, but I still like using armoured boots and gloves with it.

    3.

    This has been my alt's SCH outfit for ages and I never would have thought robes like this don't suit a scholar, even if it's nowhere near the relic designs.

    I have an assortment of RDM glamours too but I don't have them linkable right now.



    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    Robes are not my cup of tea or style, and I'd rather be a mage running around in very casual wear (like a t shirt and pants) which also fits a magic user as it's not heavy armor. I like when the game experiments with different styles of gear.
    The thing with "very casual wear" is that we do have it in the game. It's all-class glamour gear and you're free to use it on whatever you want. A t-shirt and jeans wouldn't make sense as healer-specific gear, with or without chemist.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    For me personally, most robes in game conceal the gorgeous attire the lies underneath it. I tend to look at robes as a 'lazy' glamour choice because there isn't much point looking for matching glamours with legs and feet (sometimes hands too) because the robe covers it all up.
    Fair enough, and I've had similar thoughts on things - like the Mheg Deaca robe where everyone was showing it off and they're all looking the same because it covers everything - though I do think we get a lot of open-fronted things to work with. Even if it's just a slit, you still have to think about what's visible, and skirts usually flutter up when spellcasting.



    Quote Originally Posted by Gothicshark View Post
    umm...

    Class Gear says you are wrong:
    Again, I did say most of the time. And you can do creative things with all the jobs.

    On the other hand if they're not doing anything special with role gear for the current "odd jobs" then I don't expect chemist would get a lot of attention either.
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    TitaniumVulpes's Avatar
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    Marlen'a Soheil
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    Diabolos
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    On the other hand if they're not doing anything special with role gear for the current "odd jobs" then I don't expect chemist would get a lot of attention either.
    Honestly, like I said, Chemist/Apothecary wouldn't be an odd job. It would be on the same aesthetic level as Scholar, which is the current odd job. I mean, look at the HW SCH gear - that was quite obviously originally, at least in part, a Chemist design. It doesn't even have the mortar board hat like all of the other SCH artifacts and... those gloves, all the weird tubes... There's no doubt in my mind that was an Ishgardian Chemist set concept that they liked too much to just scrap when they replaced the job with AST. After all, Ishgardian Scholasticates don't wear the military-style gear of Nymian Scholars - they do wear robes. If it was purely an Ishgardian-style Scholar set, it would have been a robe.

    It would, ideally, even out the Healer gear aesthetic between robes for WHM/AST and fancy jackets and chunky boots for SCH/CHM(APO?). Of course you'd be free to use the robes on your SCH, just as an AST would be free to use the medic-style gear, but there would at least be that choice. All we really have for the "combat medic" aesthetic right now, outside SCH artifacts, is the Baelsar's Wall set and the Arboretum HM set (which is just the Baelsar's gear shuffled around a little).
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