No more QTE please.

[Doozer]

Yeah, no. I also don't like that it has a huge potential for trolls to exploit it, which is what I suspect was going on the very first time I ran it when we failed six times before finally clearing it [I actually only failed the mech *once* and that was because I wasn't expecting the difficulty level.]

People will troll anything. People use Rescue to troll, people drop AoEs on others to troll, use Shirk to troll, etc. Does that mean everything that has potential to cause trolling should be removed? Some people even just jump off the edge of the battle area to troll people. That's not really a good reason to get rid of it.

[redheadturk]

Those things don't wipe an entire party when used to troll, this *does*. Huge difference. At least making it so it only kills the troll will make this more reasonable.

[Doozer]

Those things don't wipe an entire party when used to troll, this *does*. Huge difference.

Yes they can. People dropping AoEs on an entire party can cause a wipe, a tank or the last living healer jumping off the edge can cause a wipe... Have you played this game at all?

[redheadturk]

*Can* wipe. This is *guaranteed* to wipe a partly if a troll makes use of it. Trolls dropping an aoe on top of the party can possibly be recovered. This, as it currently is, you can't.

[Doozer]

*Can* wipe. This is *guaranteed* to wipe a partly if a troll makes use of it. Trolls dropping an aoe on top of the party can possibly be recovered. This, as it currently is, you can't.

Well, then grow up and kick the person trolling and move on. Instead of crying for SE to change a mechanic because of the mere concept of it being used to troll, take matters into your own hands. Leave and join a different group if you're really so certain that someone is trolling. My first time through took a few tries as well, and people weren't trolling at all. Maybe you shouldn't jump to that conclusion immediately and think that it could've possibly just been someone struggling. If you're so certain, take action. Kick them, report them, etc. If not, maybe just get over it.

People constantly say the game is brain dead easy as it is, so it's funny that as soon as it's not a total snooze fest it has to be changed.

[Controller]

You want content with bite? Go run extremes/ultimates/savage. MS content *should* be easy enough for everyone to clear. Normal mode trials are *supposed* to be easy, thank you.

No easy is posed to be easy. Normal isn't posed to be baby mode. And telling me to go play extremes doesn't answer the issue with normal having no bite at all. Normal shouldn't be so easy you can sleep and pass. That does nothing. We finally get something that ask you not to sleep. What's wrong with that?

[Doozer]

No easy is posed to be easy. Normal isn't posed to be baby mode. And telling me to go play extremes doesn't answer the issue with normal having no bite at all. Normal shouldn't be so easy you can sleep and pass. That does nothing. We finally get something that ask you not to sleep. What's wrong with that?

There's also lots of 'normal' difficulty content that isn't a total cake walk either. They don't all have a hard reset like that, but they're not really that 'easy' either. So it's interesting that this fight isn't too complicated, but a single mechanic that prevents people from being carried makes it have too much "bite".

[Controller]

There's also lots of 'normal' difficulty content that isn't a total cake walk either. They don't all have a hard reset like that, but they're not really that 'easy' either. So it's interesting that this fight isn't too complicated, but a single mechanic that prevents people from being carried makes it have too much "bite".

I feel me and you are on the same page. And yeah I know. I'm just happy this trial has whatever bite to it and it sucks people want to nerf it. Like I can get behind the QTE hurting people... but I can't get behind taking out the one thing in the fight that makes it have a bit of OOOFTH you know? I dunno.. maybe I just expect people to .. I dunno... play video games.

[Doozer]

I feel me and you are on the same page. And yeah I know. I'm just happy this trial has whatever bite to it and it sucks people want to nerf it. Like I can get behind the QTE hurting people... but I can't get behind taking out the one thing in the fight that makes it have a bit of OOOFTH you know? I dunno.. maybe I just expect people to .. I dunno... play video games.

Yes, exactly. It's nice to not able to sleep through a duty and for it to have actual significance in relation to the story. Not just another generic beatdown.

[Liam_Harper]

I'm just happy this trial has whatever bite to it and it sucks people want to nerf it. Like I can get behind the QTE hurting people... but I can't get behind taking out the one thing in the fight that makes it have a bit of OOOFTH you know?

It's hilarious calling the QTE a bit of "ooofth" with "bite to it". If that's your idea of challenge, you don't want challenge at all. You want little pretend mechanics to feel like you beat a challenge. It's basically a free pass if you don't have a severe physical disability and removing it makes zero change to the actual difficulty of the fight in terms of mechanics.

Even the Doom at the start has more bite than the QTE ever will. If you want challenge ask for the Meteors or a version of Quintuplecast from EX or something.