No more QTE please.

[Ashpd]

It looks like you didn't read this thread well. As Lhunuial and others have said, they have tried to do this many times in different ways. Several people here have tried to solve the problem using different methods, with controller or keyboard. You just say "get good", instead of offering a solution for people who really need help. But it’s impossible to get better if you have spinal disorders, cerebral palsy, contractures, arthritis, lack of coordination after trauma or due cerebral problem, etc. If the "It's not interesting" argument takes precedence over the "I'm in pain" argument for you, I'm sorry about you. And please don't be illiterate, even children may have arthritis.

And you didnt read my message well. Where i say about get good? What solution i need give you, if people already had even with video? I read Lhunuial posts, i read your posts. And my main point exactly about messages like yours. Not others.

[Lhunuial]

That makes things difficult. I'd say buy a PS4 controller and see how it feels. You live in a different world man. I've been on consoles since Nintendo, so .... I don't even know. I tried playing Devil may cry 3 on KB and HOW? Like I finished it but THAT hurts my hands. Using a KB for gaming. I dunno how people do it. Controllers are so much more comfy imo.

You get used to it, hahaha. Controllers feel really awkward to me. I played FFXV on my laptop too. I've only ever played Nintendo's Wii for a short while, oh and GameCube. Controllers just feel weird to me. I always press the wrong buttons. Although I was decent at MarioKart. Smash Brothers was fun too, but not too long.

[RajNish]

And you didnt read my message well. Where i say about get good? What solution i need give you, if people already had even with video? I read Lhunuial posts, i read your posts. And my main point exactly about messages like yours. Not others.

Nope, you didn't read my message. You really didn’t read it, look back a few pages where I said that I informed the SE about the problem. Where is the pity card? We are discussing a problem that is important to us and trying to do something sharing our experience and opinion. In addition, I did not answer you, but Aurelius2625 to this:

See, these are the same people that wanted the FFXV event to be nerfed because they sucked so bad at it, instead of you know... getting good? Like, you're supposed to fail a few times at something before you get it eventually. Expecting to pass everything in one go is literally a child's way of looking at the world. Perhaps some of you are Elidibus in disguise.

Like...just pick two buttons on your controller to mash alternating between them, or two keys with two different fingers.

Legit how are you failing this?

but no, just nerf everything because you failed and you don't like that you didn't win right away and it wasn't easy as pie.

The argument of "It's not interesting" is more compelling, I can reason with that. But anyone who can't do this must be like 60 years old with arthritis or something.

How did y'all play games before that had this kind of thing? Did you just give up and not do it? lol.

Or was it you?

[Ashpd]

Btw, about methods for that QTE. You can little mash Q and E on keyboard + use your mouse on that button on screen. Gonna help a little + put away stress from 1 hand

[Lhunuial]

Btw, about methods for that QTE. You can little mash Q and E on keyboard + use your mouse on that button on screen. Gonna help a little + put away stress from 1 hand

I'll give it a try, see if it helps. Once my anxiety to try again is gone.

[Hatfright]

That makes things difficult. I'd say buy a PS4 controller and see how it feels. You live in a different world man. I've been on consoles since Nintendo, so .... I don't even know. I tried playing Devil may cry 3 on KB and HOW? Like I finished it but THAT hurts my hands. Using a KB for gaming. I dunno how people do it. Controllers are so much more comfy imo.

It depends on the prefference and experience, really. Or on a game.
Before FFXV came out I never really played with a controller, and when I got my hands on PS4, oof, that was.. an adaptive expirience for sure. When game was ported to PC, tho there was some questionable button binds, I never had any problems. ...was even able to land flying Regalia safely with no issues, when on PS4 that was a disaster everytime. x)

[RajNish]

Honestly, in my opinion, it’s some kind of absurdity when someone, with all the severity of judges, asking a person with a disability, how much she/he tryharding, still talking about her/his lack of effort and laziness. And for what? Just to finish story quest. Not hard content, not savage. Not to find food or money, not to save people or yourself. Just finish the MSQ, in MMO's pixel world. Really? People, what’s wrong with you?

[yotsuffy]

wow. 21 pages.

(...)
Hitting any and many buttons for a QTE has never been obvious.
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But, heh, let's try things on a one-fails-all-fail QTE. It's fun to try things when it only implies everyone else to hate you because instead of you trying things lol, they smashed one button as hard as they could to pass some senseless crazy stupidly-hurting time-troller QTE.

Yeah, they're stupid. And now they hurt. On a game. For an accessible mission that has a challenging version. Damn are they stupid. Why don't they all play with mouse+keyboard and faceroll? Their hands wouldn't hurt.

Those people who hurt from some senseless crazy stupidly-hurting time-troller QTE, damn are they stupid.

Why don't they try things and find a way? They would feel rewarded, damn!

Did I summerize right?

(...)
I'm glad I can chose to never do this trial again.
I'm disappointed I was forced to do it to follow the MSQ.

[Ultimatecalibur]

The Active Time Maneuvers have been in game since E11 in patch 3.4. They have not stirred up nearly as many complaints as the most recently released version. What changed with the most recent one?

• E11: Cruise Chaser (3.4) - Full Party. Once a player has gotten on CC, they must press a single button before time runs out to jump off boss. Failure kills self.
• E11S: Cruise Chaser (3.4) - Full Party. Once a player has gotten on CC, they must press a single button before time runs out to jump off boss. Failure kills self. Shorter time limit than normal version.
• Susanoo (4.0) - "Tank" only. Tank must mash buttons to prevent bar from emptying to hold up giant sword while rest of party kills it. Failure wipes party. Bar drains at a constant rate.
• Shinryu (4.0) - Full Party. Players must button mash to fill bar and break free to grab onto Shinryu. Failure kills self.
• Susanoo EX (4.0) - "Tank" only. Tank must mash buttons to prevent bar from emptying to hold up giant sword while rest of party kills it. Failure wipes party. Bar drains faster than normal mode.
• Shinryu EX (4.1) - Full Party. Players must button mash to fill bar and break free to grab onto Shinryu. Failure kills self. Bar requires more button presses to fill than normal mode.
• 4.4 MSQ Solo Instance - Press buttons to fill bar to break out of chains. Failure restarts instance.
• Hades (5.0) - Full Party. Players must button mash to fill bar and break free of chains. Failure kills self.
• Resistance Weapon Solo Instance (5.2) - Tank only. Tank must button mash to prevent bar from emptying until attack destroyed by npc dps. Failure restarts fight.
• Memoria Misera (5.2) - Tanks Only. Tanks must button mash to prevent bar from emptying until attack destroyed by dps. Failure increases difficulty for other Tank and if both Tanks fail wipes party. Harder than Solo Instance version.
• ??? (5.3) - Full Party. Players must button mash to prevent bar from emptying. Any player failing wipes party. Bar is deceptive as amount filled by each button press is inverse to how filled the bar is while draining at a very fast and constant rate.

From what I see the complaints stem from them using a modified version of what was previously a tank only version of the ATM for the entire party. The ATM last longer than what most non-tanks are used to while also being more difficult than what tanks are used to.

[Lhunuial]

Exactly. Because it is more difficult, because of the deceptive bar and because it lasts longer people are having trouble with it, because it hurts their hands, for example.