No more QTE please.

[redheadturk]

I would be fine if they removed the wipe mechanic from the QTE. Make it so only the player that fails dies. Also, bitching at players with disabilities is crappy, don't do that. >>

[Controller]

I would be fine if they removed the wipe mechanic from the QTE. Make it so only the player that fails dies. Also, bitching at players with disabilities is crappy, don't do that. >>

Disagree.. I like the wipe mechanic. You can change the QTE for all I care but keep the mechanic.

[Enla]

But you didn't. It's supposed to represent struggle and the meter is intentionally impossible at the very start.

I've yet to get an answer on how someone would change that cinematic moment to better represent it within the abilities of the game.

Literally just don't make it wipe the entire party if one person fails. That's it. It would be preferable if the QTE worked like every other QTE in the game, and not an obfuscated mess where no one can even agree on how to do it. But at this point if we only got to pick ONE change that would be the most equitable one. I'll take weakness in a trial and a quick rezz over being in pain the rest of the day.

The Dying Gasp still had a fairly impressive cinematic moment in its phase transition without wiping the entire party if one person failed it.

[redheadturk]

Disagree.. I like the wipe mechanic. You can change the QTE for all I care but keep the mechanic.

The wipe mechanic sucks because most of the time you don't even *know* who failed, it sucks to succeed at the mechanic which is hard for some of us to *do* and then wipe anyway because someone else fails it. Remove it.

[Controller]

The wipe mechanic sucks because most of the time you don't even *know* who failed, it sucks to succeed at the mechanic which is hard for some of us to *do* and then wipe anyway because someone else fails it. Remove it.

This is sadden because so little content in this game has a bite and everyone wants to nerf it to the ground. I get the QTE. I agree changing THAT but I can't get behind taking that mechanic out. I just can't. I want it to stay cause it's nice having normal content have a bite.

[redheadturk]

You want content with bite? Go run extremes/ultimates/savage. MS content *should* be easy enough for everyone to clear. Normal mode trials are *supposed* to be easy, thank you.

[MsMisato]

You want content with bite? Go run extremes/ultimates/savage. MS content *should* be easy enough for everyone to clear. Normal mode trials are *supposed* to be easy, thank you.

i'm all down for changing the QTE mechanic itself, but there still needs to be consequences for a person for failing it. If you loose to the WoL, its game over. Your WoD lost to the WoL, there is no going around that. Your story ends hence the wipe.

What is wrong however is the QTE mechanic itself and that needs to be address.

[redheadturk]

I am the exact opposite. I am all right with the QTE mech, but think they should not have it wipe the group. Have the person who failed it die, not the whole group. That is how it has worked for QTE prior, it's how it should work here.

[Doozer]

So many people get carried through the game by failing mechanics over and over but being saved because the game doesn't punish the whole group for a single player dying. The QTE is a bit aggressive, but fully doable with 2 buttons being pressed rapidly back and forth.

I like that everyone has to succeed because it makes more sense for that fight (since I suspect if you failed to escape it you wouldn't be able to return to the fight area with everyone else), and it forces people to actually put in the work instead of their corpse being yeeted across the finish by everyone else that does do the mechanic.

[redheadturk]

So many people get carried through the game by failing mechanics over and over but being saved because the game doesn't punish the whole group for a single player dying. The QTE is a bit aggressive, but fully doable with 2 buttons being pressed rapidly back and forth.

I like that everyone has to succeed because it makes more sense for that fight (since I suspect if you failed to escape it you wouldn't be able to return to the fight area with everyone else), and it forces people to actually put in the work instead of their corpse being yeeted across the finish by everyone else that does do the mechanic.

Yeah, no. I also don't like that it has a huge potential for trolls to exploit it, which is what I suspect was going on the very first time I ran it when we failed six times before finally clearing it [I actually only failed the mech *once* and that was because I wasn't expecting the difficulty level.]