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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    it's high time the multiple house owners admit they're in the wrong.
    Multiple house owners aren't wrong. They're collecting things, in an MMO where the whole point is to collect things.
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by k99 View Post
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    I have kept my stance constant, and I will still say that while it isn't a violation of the rules, it is absolutely taking advantage of the system and shouldn't be allowed, but as you say SE and GMs have the final say.

    While I may be disagreeing wholeheartedly and consistently with the GM's decision on this situation, nowhere have I said that they cannot be trusted as a blanket statement. Please explain to me though, how buying up an entire ward's worth of houses is not inconveniencing other players when we have all at least managed to agree that there is not enough housing in the game overall? Because it certainly looks like it's an inconvenience.

    I will agree that I appear to be waving a pitchfork at one person in particular and concede that I should have put in the first post that this is not the only instance of it I disagree with, as I've stated in my replies to Erys. I will also concede that this was written while I was particularly irate with the entire situation of people buying up wards, even under the new system that is supposed to somewhat limit it. Partially because it is on a relatively new world that was made for new characters and players to be able to enjoy, and had its timers extended on housing to make sure people on that server had an equal chance to earn enough gil to buy it, and partially because I will still say that the community is shooting itself in the foot by defending this kind of buying up of wards yet shouting for more. And the post was not exactly written well or very clearly.

    And I will reiterate, I do not condone or encourage the death threats or doxxing that people have been aiming at this particular person on other social platforms nor was it ever my intention to do so. I was initially under the impression that this was a huge fc that had split itself. The fact that this is a single player, though, still annoys me more.
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    Last edited by Sylvastreak; 08-22-2020 at 11:18 AM. Reason: clarification

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Multiple house owners aren't wrong. They're collecting things, in an MMO where the whole point is to collect things.
    It is when you've exceeded more than one personal house per account, and more than one FC per account as per the restrictions SE had laid out at https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/ .

    My exact stance is that anyone that doesn't have a subscription to cover those excess houses is exploiting the system. For example, there should be 59 subscriptions to cover the houses in the OP for that to be considered acceptable.
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  4. 08-22-2020 11:32 AM

  5. #84
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    As an extra note, I haven't been knowingly manipulating any information presented to me - disagreeing with it is a whole different matter as is arguing against it. Replying with an opinion is also not manipulating information.
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    Could someone suggest a few items to go with my Namazu Basement https://i.imgur.com/bZuHe5k.jpg

    Maybe a lamp or a chair, don't want it to be too crowded.
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  7. #86
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    Wrong thread for this, but a stove for cooking them.

    Don't eat them while they're still alive and talking, btw.
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  8. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    It is when
    Nope. SE grandfathered people into ownership of multiple houses. It's perfectly allowable. You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.
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  9. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Nope. SE grandfathered people into ownership of multiple houses. It's perfectly allowable. You not liking it doesn't make it wrong.
    Allowing it doesn't make it "right" either, particularly on this scale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvastreak View Post
    Allowing it doesn't make it "right" either, particularly on this scale.
    Then it's morally grey.
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  11. #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvastreak View Post
    Allowing it doesn't make it "right" either, particularly on this scale.
    In general, "right" encompasses all things that are not wrong, and are allowable.
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