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  1. #241
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogmion View Post
    You don't have to press very fast at all. The time you get for each press increases the lower it gets. You can easily pass the mechanic with a very relaxed pace.
    Strange because when a certain streamer did it (reacting only towards the end) and smashed the button for that it was not enough. Also hinsight is always easier. In that moment you dont know that maybe the display is "rigged" and that you can take more time or if you even want to take more time because suddenly you are beyond the point of the no return. (15 seconds are long but at the same time still quite short) And lets not talk about something like lagg..good luck beating it "slowly" if you lagg at the very worst time.

    And how many of the people having problems with that will look at the forum to see how to beat it differently? How many will just suffer and then maybe even turn away from the game?

    In the end all the QTEs before that were never that harsh. I never had such problems and felt a bit paniked about something like that before this trial.
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  2. #242
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    Balmung_Griffin's Avatar
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    Balmung Griffin
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    Sargatanas
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    I particularly have no trouble with mashing, (Remember FFVIII Boost lol)
    But I think that SQEX should give an option to hold a button instead of mashing.
    This is basic accessibility option in 2020.
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  3. #243
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Faerie
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Xaphire View Post
    There's an incredibly good Street Fighter V player named Brolylegs. The guy literally plays with his face, way better at the game than I'll ever be.

    This is an unkind thing to say, I realize this, but if you are physically incapable of mashing two or three buttons for twenty seconds or whatever it is, you aren't capable of participating in combat at an acceptable level in FFXIV, and have been carried through every duty you have ever joined.

    It sucks, but it's the nature of the game. You press a lot of buttons for your general rotation to just play your class.
    Yes, you are being extremely unkind. Playing the way the game asks of you to do your job vs. button mashing is two totally different responses. Saying someone has been carried through everything else just because they can't do this is ridiculous. Had people who passed Ultimate complain about the mechanic. (As well as the fact that if someone actually cannot pass, no one else in the group will either.)
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  4. #244
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    Balmung_Griffin's Avatar
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    Balmung Griffin
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    Sargatanas
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    Wow, I just entered the thread an posted my opinion without reading other posts and...Yikes.

    I urge all of you that actually care for people with disabilities and want them to enjoy the game like you do, take a minute of your time and leave a suggestion via the in game "Contact Us"

    I think the OPTION to toggle Mash Button to Hold a Button a good compromise and highly effective.
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  5. #245
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    Puremallace's Avatar
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    Pure Mallace
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleluia View Post
    What is the button you are supposed to hit on the keyboard for that mechanic, anyway? I've always just clicked.
    You can literally faceroll your keyboard. Yeah I agree if you are going to have QTE's then they need to get swapped up to be more interesting.
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  6. #246
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    Infindox's Avatar
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    Absenthine Starfrost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balmung_Griffin View Post
    Wow, I just entered the thread an posted my opinion without reading other posts and...Yikes.

    I urge all of you that actually care for people with disabilities and want them to enjoy the game like you do, take a minute of your time and leave a suggestion via the in game "Contact Us"

    I think the OPTION to toggle Mash Button to Hold a Button a good compromise and highly effective.
    That would actually be a really good idea imo. I
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  7. #247
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    Lhunuial's Avatar
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    Ishild Hawke
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Balmung_Griffin View Post
    Wow, I just entered the thread an posted my opinion without reading other posts and...Yikes.

    I urge all of you that actually care for people with disabilities and want them to enjoy the game like you do, take a minute of your time and leave a suggestion via the in game "Contact Us"

    I think the OPTION to toggle Mash Button to Hold a Button a good compromise and highly effective.
    I actually did that immediately. I sent messages though "Contact us" and I sent messages to the Accessibility team.

    I would hate it if I had to turn away from this game because of one stupid mechanic. I invested several years in this game and I enjoy everything else except this mechanic.
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    "I don't know how to explain to you that you should care about other people."

  8. #248
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    Tamhas Lasair
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    The twenty-fifth page, and none of the QTE defenders answered the question: what will happen, if the whole party will not wipe after QTE. Instead, players who have problems are told to "Overcome them! Because we're doing well. Don't complain. Find a way!" Kudos! Sure, people with chronic diseases, people with injuries as a result of accidents or violence overcome so little in their lives! They try less, let them work hard in the game! But the bottom line is that you, healthy people who are not experiencing difficulties with QTE, who, as one interlocutor admitted, have a lot of time, you have no idea. You do not know what it's like when the usual action you perform without thinking can be a difficult test. You don't know what it means when your body or part of it doesn't obey, whatever you want. And you don't know the circumstances of other people's lives. Yeah. But why think about it? After all, you have no problem with this. Piece of cake! To be honest, some of the lines here remind me of this scene. In the ancient time, people with disabilities were throw from a rock. Not now. That's why probably that people with disabilities should not ask for help. But it's not speculation. I want to remind you that we are not talking about simplifying the mechanics of battle, not about changing classes, not even about removing QTE. Just about changing in "The seat of Sacrifice".
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    Last edited by Tamhas; 08-19-2020 at 03:14 AM.

  9. #249
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    MsMisato's Avatar
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    Khloe Lafihna
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    You can literally faceroll your keyboard. Yeah I agree if you are going to have QTE's then they need to get swapped up to be more interesting.
    nah you got to change a setting to allow facerolling. pressing any other key other than crtl alt or space will go into chat and the chat log looks like this. I saw this alot last night:

    player x: facvsadgavssadfaddfadfadfadfadf
    player z: adfa adfa dsf23 rfsadf

    wipe

    Player Tank: ok who messed up? don't be shy we want to help you out so we can past this.
    *crickets*
    Player X leaves party
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  10. #250
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    This is an unkind thing to say, I realize this, but if you are physically incapable of mashing two or three buttons for twenty seconds or whatever it is, you aren't capable of participating in combat at an acceptable level in FFXIV, and have been carried through every duty you have ever joined.
    It's not only an unkind thing to say, it isn't very aware.

    FFXIV has specific systems in place that keep you from needing to buttonmash in combat; specifically the action "queueing" system where you can hit an action up to around a second before your GCD is ready and the game will "remember" your input and activate it once your GCD is actually ready. This was added specifically to curb buttonmashing and act as an equalizer; if it wasn't for this system, we would all have to buttonmash throughout combat just to be able to keep up with our GCD.

    If you're buttonmashing all the time when you fight stuff in FFXIV, that's pretty much your own fault. You might have to think ahead or quickly to plan out your upcoming actions and execute them in an optimal way, but you have never been outright required to buttonmash to fight efficiently in this game.
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    Last edited by Fynlar; 08-19-2020 at 04:30 AM.

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