Revelations from Patch 5.3

[Yuella]

You need to pick the three spots that are close to buildings. I got 8. She said something like "Of course I couldn't beat you"

[Aeliott]

Something I wanted to address earlier but forgot:

MSQ

So we know for a fact now that the 14th Convocation member, Azem, essentially us, was the defector they kept mentioning. But it was also said in 5.2 by Venat's group, that the defector wouldn't support them (Hydaelyn) either. While I know we're not really the same person we were eons ago, it's kind of strange how someone who shunned both gods is now so heavily associated with Hydaelyn? Or maybe it was just the sacrificial genocide Azem was against. Still an odd little nugget to me. I guess overall I'm saying I hope they don't just forget about Hydaelyn now, as there are still a lot of big question marks.

[YianKutku]

I hate character limits on this site.

I didn't even you can win the fight. I thought kill three spots and return. I saw the Quest Marker change and I thought it was done. Still... was funny seeing her reaction.

"Yes, I bested [You]... in another gods damn life! You weren't even trying and intentionally lose!?"

It was something like that.

What does Alisaie says if you best her?

You need to pick the three spots that are close to buildings. I got 8. She said something like "Of course I couldn't beat you"

To round it out, this is what she says when you draw:

Anyway, I still need time to digest the MSQ, but I'm still giddy-happy about a bit of brilliance in the lore.

When I saw the constellation crystals, I went "those kind of look like soul crystals we use for Jobs".

And then I realized that this was probably exactly the point, both in the meta-design sense of the art team, and in-universe. Soul crystals were first created and put into widespread use in the Third Astral Era, ie the Allagan Empire. Which we know Emet-Selch had a strong hand in raising.

So of course he would come up with something like that (or at least influenced the people in charge to come up with something like that) for what we use soul crystals for in modern times, because that's what these crystals were used for in Amaurot, albeit at a much higher level of capacity and complexity of storage. And it probably helped in making its usage both widespread and enduring even beyond Calamities that us sundered souls might have a twinge of nostalgia at these modern soul crystals as How Things Should Be.

[Lium]

Something I wanted to address earlier but forgot:

MSQ

So we know for a fact now that the 14th Convocation member, Azem, essentially us, was the defector they kept mentioning. But it was also said in 5.2 by Venat's group, that the defector wouldn't support them (Hydaelyn) either. While I know we're not really the same person we were eons ago, it's kind of strange how someone who shunned both gods is now so heavily associated with Hydaelyn? Or maybe it was just the sacrificial genocide Azem was against. Still an odd little nugget to me. I guess overall I'm saying I hope they don't just forget about Hydaelyn now, as there are still a lot of big question marks.

This reminded me of something I forgot to mention as well about the MSQ.

It's high time we had a little chat with ole Hydaelyn. It's been a while. In fact, I don't think we've actually talked to her directly since Heavensward when we got Her blessing back? We've only spoken to the Word of the Mother (Minfilia). But knowing that She's a primal and that we are Azem (I guess?) I feel like we'd have a LOT to say to her, and many questions besides.

As for Werlyt:

Finally did this next part. It was brief. Fighting as the G-Warrior was fun at first, and the design is badass, though it really reminded me of Evangelion. But the fight against the Sapphire Weapon was super annoying to me. I died twice just from mistiming the shield and speed boost, so on the third try I did it on very easy mode. I was more interested in the story anyway. These solo duties can really grate on my nerves.

The most interesting part was that one Duskwight soldier who is working with Gaius. Can't remember his name. But I like how he remains suspicious of Gaius. You don't go from being as obsessively righteous as the Black Wolf was, to suddenly being on a path to redemption so quickly. I mean, sure, a near death experience due to Ascian treachery and a butt whipping by the Warrior of Light is enough to make you rethink things, but to instantly become somewhat of an anti-hero? I don't buy it. His adopted kids seem to be the writers' way of convincing us that Gaius' heart is true, and that even though he was wrong, he is ultimately a good man. Again, I agree with the soldier. I'm not really buying it. We'll see what happens.

Gameplay wise, when do we upgrade our weapons? I thought that was the whole reason for this questline?

[Rocl]

Gameplay wise, when do we upgrade our weapons? I thought that was the whole reason for this questline?

That's the Bozjan storyline, which should be coming out in roughly a month.

[Lium]

That's the Bozjan storyline, which should be coming out in roughly a month.

Gotcha, thanks. I got confused, which isn't hard.

[Hikari_Kishimoto]

The developers have been saying for months now that Season 1 of FF14 storyline is finally reaching its conclusion. Season 2 on the other hand is up to determine how long it maybe since that is 7.0 and beyond content

That would have been fine with me, but why not give it a decent ending then?
ShB was so well written, the story built up through many years - and now they just tossed it all out of the window in the blink of an eye.
That doesn't do the story justice. Another expension, or even an enlargened story patch, would have.
Storywise, I have no reason to play FFXIV anymore.

[Frizze]

That would have been fine with me, but why not give it a decent ending then?
ShB was so well written, the story built up through many years - and now they just tossed it all out of the window in the blink of an eye.
That doesn't do the story justice. Another expension, or even an enlargened story patch, would have.
Storywise, I have no reason to play FFXIV anymore.

Maybe Edwin wasnt clear. YoshiP has been saying in interviews for a couple years that he felt the 6.0 expansion would end the current story(remember, this is patch 5.3). I read the text at the end of the MSQ as basically confirming that the next expansion wraps up what we have going on now. So yeah, one more expansion to end the story right. Then possibly a new story that starts and goes for a few expansions after that. Who knows.

[Lium]

One other question about the MSQ.

Was it actually confirmed that we are Azem? It still seems like Hythlodaeus made it sound like we could use her crystal but he didn't outright say, "Because Azem is you." It still seemed to leave just enough mystery to who we really were.

Then there's Elidibus asking the same question Thordin asked when it was clear he could not defeat us. "What are you?" I feel like if we were Azem, he would have recognized us. Though it seems like he had begun to forget a lot of things about his past.

As an aside, was anyone else slightly annoyed when Elidibus said, "When we first fought, I won." I was like, no you didn't. I beat you and then you basically respawned and my soul was summoned to the First. Nitpicky detail, I know. Just wish we were given a dialogue option to refute that line.

[Lium]

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