Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
What make you think that war deserve better after that hindering?
Nice try. I don’t think they deserve better, I don’t think they deserve anything.
Who deserved better was the person you responded to within this post.

Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
Don't start making a rule that someone can't feel like respond to OP and Retaliation to WAR who came to hindered DRK at the same time.
Unless the responded quotes someone they are directly responding to, or makes an indictor they are responding to someone other than the OP (such as calling out their name), it is assumed that the person is responding to the OP.
I did not make up this rule, this is a norm that has been around for years.
Your feel isn’t a rule and doesn’t meet the norm that is in place.


Quote Originally Posted by cactuarzzzz View Post
Then how do you claim that "DRK is in the state it is in because the community made it that way, and the community still hasn’t accepted any responsibility for making DRK the way it is. Yes, it is your fault why DRK the way it is."

Because you already knew everyone when you start make that claim? Look at yourself.
Oh and by the way I didn't call you WAR main so don't jump the gun.
Because I was there at the start of StB, where both DRKs and WARs united when both jobs needed major changes.

It was beautiful. You can look through that whole period of time and see the threads where there were discussions. Trolls of course occurred and dissenters, but that is normal.

Then SE made major changes to WAR and DRK got next to nothing, and everything went to pot quickly.

Both parties were not happy on the aggregate.

There were WARs that rubbed in the faces of DRKs. Which began the split of the community. I blame those WARs for not having empathy, but I also blame the WAR community for not condemning the behavior. Which is why I put myself as part of the blame for how DRK turned out today.

Though, the DRKs were no better. They reacted emotionally to the results from SE and some went into threads just to force the thread to change it into a DRK thread.

Here is an example of a thread that celebrated the fix WARs go, and a DRK main went in, all soured, and was trying to force the thread into a DRK thread:
https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...nges-are-great

My response to that sour DRK:
Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
Sweet Jesus, dude/lady/person-of-gender we get it! DRK got shafted compared to the almost complete job overhaul of WAR. What DRK received this patch seems very empty on paper, like SE only put in the most minimal amount of effort into making the job more usable.

I don’t see anyone really within the Tank subforums disagreeing with the fact that DRK is still “behind” balance-wise.
You don’t need to go into every WAR thread and/or non-DRK thread and try to make the conversation about DRK. We fucking get it. Overall balance sucks and we fucking get that too.

Go into the other DRK threads (including the thread you started) and discuss DRK issues there. It is getting to the point to where this is getting annoying (at least to me).
We tried having more discussions, but they always fell apart. DRKs either complaining and pointing at WARs or WARs reacting with “DRK did Ultimate, you’re fine,” meme.

The community is at the fault for DRK as it is, because we didn’t stop the focusing on WAR from both WARs and DRKs. Instead of trying to get DRK back to like it was in a prior expansion (like your threads tried), fingers were pointed at WAR.

By the way, when you state “fellow WAR” that means you have grouped me within that community and assumed my main. You jumped the gun, not me.